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Laverna – A Markdown note-taking app focused on privacy

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Re: Laverna – A Markdown note-taking app focused on privacy

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Post by mondoshawan »

zachlatta wrote: post #17
bitexploder wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Org mode in a git repo. Easy enough. Don't need a fussy rendering step. Generate a PDF or HTML from org. Regardless of how you do it -- plain text will endure and using git makes it really simple. Markdown can never "go away" and neither can org files. They are inherently readable with cat and the naked eye. If I can't legibly read it with cat / less it will eventually leave me disappointed in some way.

org-mode's format sucks, is only partially supported outside of Emacs, and is on its way out. org-mode is only any good if you're using the full power of it (tasks, agenda, etc), which is buying into a system that's soon going away.

For taking notes you don't need todos or the agenda -- it's heirarchical, fast to search through, and pleasing to the eye (at least, to a similar level to markdown). Aside from that, the syntax is at least as expressive, if not more so because of the extensibility of the language it's written in.

Yes, buying into the todo and agenda systems effectively requires using an external integration script or using emacs all the way through, so that's not all that great. I, too, have yet to figure out how to integrate it into the usual PIM stuff like next loud calendars, etc.

Has anyone else managed to figure this bit out?

Re: Laverna – A Markdown note-taking app focused on privacy

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Post by imtringued »

yborg wrote: post #39
TheGRS wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Much like the wicked witch of the west though, the paper king is easily destroyed by water.

Or fire. Or wind. Good earth resistance, +1 if clay coat.

Or by my own sweaty hands.

Re: Laverna – A Markdown note-taking app focused on privacy

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Post by dade_ »

I recently tried it again, Laverna is very buggy and I just received an email from dropbox noting that the api they used is being deprecated. The app isn't really native, just a chromium window running a local web app.

So if it needs to be mobile, I am using onenote, but have to use the web app in Linux, and search is useless on the web app. So for desktop only, I use Zim. Cross platform, lots of plugins, stores everything in a file system with markdown. I haven't been able to get SVG to render in the notes though, which would be awesome, then I could just edit my diagrams and pictures with Inkscape. I can read the notes on mobile devices as they are just in markdown, but a mobile app really is needed.

Re: Laverna – A Markdown note-taking app focused on privacy

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Post by mondoshawan »

nlawalker wrote: post #15
zachlatta wrote: post #6

I've given up on using any sort of branded app for notetaking. At best it's open source and the maintainers will lose interest in a few years. When you write things down, you're investing in your future. It's silly to use software that isn't making that same investment. After trying Evernote, wikis, org-mode, and essentially everything else I could find, I gave up and tried building my own system for notes. Plain tim…

I tried to do this, but I missed a lot of the convenient features and flexibility of OneNote too much and made my way back to it. OneNote is proprietary, with a proprietary file format, but at least it's "self hosted" (your notes live in concrete files you control, not in a service), and it's got a lot of nice features that make it a joy to use.

I once tried to use one note for taking notes for work (1:1s, etc.) on a surface pro 4, and found that unless you go to great lengths, OneNote does everything it can to sync your notes to OneDrive. Even after turning off sync for specific books, those books ended up in OneDrive. In the end, I had to uninstall onedrive, disable syncing globally, and then login to OneDrive to delete the previously synced copies.

So users that care about privacy in their notes beware: it does take a bit of work to turn off all of the cloud functionality.

Re: Laverna – A Markdown note-taking app focused on privacy

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Post by kayoone »

zachlatta wrote: post #6

I've given up on using any sort of branded app for notetaking. At best it's open source and the maintainers will lose interest in a few years. When you write things down, you're investing in your future. It's silly to use software that isn't making that same investment. After trying Evernote, wikis, org-mode, and essentially everything else I could find, I gave up and tried building my own system for notes. Plain tim…

I use Onenote a lot for handwritten notes and also web clipping, and even for typing its fine and has been around long enough that i don't really worry about it going anywhere. Since it's included in the Office365 subscription and on all major platforms, i prefer it to Evernote. It isn't perfect, but for a complex tool like this it is immensely useful.

Re: Laverna – A Markdown note-taking app focused on privacy

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Post by onthetrain »

zachlatta wrote: post #6

I've given up on using any sort of branded app for notetaking. At best it's open source and the maintainers will lose interest in a few years. When you write things down, you're investing in your future. It's silly to use software that isn't making that same investment. After trying Evernote, wikis, org-mode, and essentially everything else I could find, I gave up and tried building my own system for notes. Plain tim…

Sounds like vimwiki.

Re: Laverna – A Markdown note-taking app focused on privacy

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Post by dade_ »

jxramos wrote: post #36
nlawalker wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I tried to do this, but I missed a lot of the convenient features and flexibility of OneNote too much and made my way back to it. OneNote is proprietary, with a proprietary file format, but at least it's "self hosted" (your notes live in concrete files you control, not in a service), and it's got a lot of nice features that make it a joy to use.

I've been curious about entering into OneNote. I liked the brief experience I had using the Android app. I've been using Google Keep, but I hit a tag limit (50 tags max) that really soured my taste for it since I write about so many different subjects I'd like arbitrary tagging. I need to learn more about the organizing structure OneNote permits.

I like OneNote and have used it for many years, but I have started running into "this section is corrupted" since I tried using the android app. The iOS app is very good, but the android app is buggy, slow, sometimes won't load pages and other times won't start. So I stopped using it, and guess what? No more corrupted pages for over a month.

Be aware that the files are also proprietary and I only know of manual ways to migrate away. I am still looking for another option.

Re: Laverna – A Markdown note-taking app focused on privacy

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Post by philipps »

virmundi wrote: post #35
bunkydoo wrote: post #27

I'm still using paper over here, nothing seems to do it for me on the computer. Paper is great, and paper is king.

I'm working on that too. Paper is king. Unfortunately my paper king has multiple fiefdoms strewn throughout my house and office. Sadly his territory span not just space, but time. There are unsearchable notes in books that cover years. I need to move the kingdom into the digital age.

I also love paper (and notebooks and pens) but am in the same situation. The new iPad Pro + Pencil look like a real alternative. I like the idea of having all my notes stored digitally especially if I can get OCR to work reasonably well.

Re: Laverna – A Markdown note-taking app focused on privacy

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Post by [deleted] »

virmundi wrote: post #35
bunkydoo wrote: post #27

I'm still using paper over here, nothing seems to do it for me on the computer. Paper is great, and paper is king.

I'm working on that too. Paper is king. Unfortunately my paper king has multiple fiefdoms strewn throughout my house and office. Sadly his territory span not just space, but time. There are unsearchable notes in books that cover years. I need to move the kingdom into the digital age.

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