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Re: Why PS4 downloads are so slow

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Post by rubatuga »

deelowe wrote: post #15
frik wrote: post #3

PS4 and Switch have at least no peer-to-peer download. Win10 and XboxOne have peer-to-peer download - who would want that, bad for users, wasting upload bandwidth and counts against your monthly internet consumption. https://www.reddit.com/r/xboxone/comments/3rhs4s/xbox_update...

Do people really have issues with bandwith limits on uploads? I've always heard the opposite. Is it P2P or more like torrent where there are multiple peers? That would make more sense. At the end of the day, isn't the switch and xbox faster at downloading? That's what really matters.

I'm lucky to get 2 Mbit upload speeds. However, my download speeds are around 25Mbit/s.

Re: Why PS4 downloads are so slow

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Post by dingo_bat »

ex3ndr wrote: post #68
g09980 wrote: post #36

Want to see something like this for (Apple's) App Store. Downloads are fast, but the App Store experience itself is so, so slow. Takes maybe five seconds to load search results or reviews even on a wi-fi connection.

Same with Google Play since day 0.

Have you used Apple store? Google play is much faster. There is no comparison.

Re: Why PS4 downloads are so slow

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Post by WillPostForFood »

mciancia wrote: post #93
andrewstuart wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I left PC gaming behind years ago. I like to sit on the couch and I want my gaming device to be a black box that does its job and is dedicated to couch based entertainment (I use it for TV too). PC gaming requires a...... PC... usually sitting at a desk, much more powerful than I need, lots of configuration etc etc to hard.... I'm a couch gamer in the evening after the programming is done. I don't care much about the…

> I don't care much about the PlayStation download thing. I generally prefer to buy my games on DVD anyway. Yeah, wait until you will have 30GB update for a game to download.

I don't think you deserve downvotes here. I only buy physical copies of games, and the standard experience is to come home, insert the disc, and wait for a multi gigabyte patch to download and install before playing.

Re: Why PS4 downloads are so slow

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Post by MBCook »

jdormit wrote: post #94
andrewstuart wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I left PC gaming behind years ago. I like to sit on the couch and I want my gaming device to be a black box that does its job and is dedicated to couch based entertainment (I use it for TV too). PC gaming requires a...... PC... usually sitting at a desk, much more powerful than I need, lots of configuration etc etc to hard.... I'm a couch gamer in the evening after the programming is done. I don't care much about the…

I have a Steam Link, and I get all the benefits of PC gaming from my couch. It's a pretty seamless best-of-both-worlds situation.

You also get the downside of having to maintain/upgrade the PC, which is one of the things I was happy to leave behind when I became a console-only gamer.

Re: Why PS4 downloads are so slow

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Post by [deleted] »

chii wrote: post #96
jzwinck wrote: post #78

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Definitely. And that "quick hack by default" person will often end up being the favorite of management because they get so many things "done." So it's important to figure out what kind of manager you have, and try not to be the slow guy on a team full of quick-hack people. You won't look good and nobody will be happy.

> the slow guy on a team full of quick-hack people isn't that called 'cultural fit'?

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Re: Why PS4 downloads are so slow

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Post by Tanegashima »

g09980 wrote: post #36

Want to see something like this for (Apple's) App Store. Downloads are fast, but the App Store experience itself is so, so slow. Takes maybe five seconds to load search results or reviews even on a wi-fi connection.

It’s their backend that’s just slow.

Thankfully, iOS 11 AppStore is much faster for everything.

Re: Why PS4 downloads are so slow

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Post by adsfqwop »

ploxiln wrote: post #18

Reminds me of how Windows Vista's "Multimedia Class Scheduler Service" would put a low cap on network throughput if any sound was playing: http://www.zdnet.com/article/follow-up-playing-music-severel... Mark Russinovich justified it by explaining that the network interrupt routine was just too expensive to be able to guarantee no glitches in media playback, so it was limited to 10 packets per millisecond when any med…

Yeah thanks Microsoft. They apparently never thought of someone playing mp3's from a network drive!! It drove me nuts for months, until I figured out exactly what you just posted.

Re: Why PS4 downloads are so slow

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Post by pier25 »

ex3ndr wrote: post #68
g09980 wrote: post #36

Want to see something like this for (Apple's) App Store. Downloads are fast, but the App Store experience itself is so, so slow. Takes maybe five seconds to load search results or reviews even on a wi-fi connection.

Same with Google Play since day 0.

I use both iOS and Android on a daily basis. In my experience the Play store is consistently faster.

I'm not surprised, Google is better at these kind of things.

Re: Why PS4 downloads are so slow

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Post by [deleted] »

andrewstuart wrote: post #86
ripdog wrote: post #80

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Because they are in a dominant market position. Honestly, it's your fault for buying a console - you knew you'd be at sony's mercy due to the monopolistic nature of consoles. The cost of switching to the one comparible console option is so great, most people will not bother unless sony's issues become too great - and network speed is presumably not a deal-breaker for enough people for sony to care. So you will contin…

I left PC gaming behind years ago. I like to sit on the couch and I want my gaming device to be a black box that does its job and is dedicated to couch based entertainment (I use it for TV too). PC gaming requires a...... PC... usually sitting at a desk, much more powerful than I need, lots of configuration etc etc to hard.... I'm a couch gamer in the evening after the programming is done. I don't care much about the…

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Re: Why PS4 downloads are so slow

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Post by kalleboo »

Sukera wrote: post #24
PaulHoule wrote: post #17

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It is astonishing how oblivious people who are "paid to spend time on the product" can be about the products they ship. Case in point, Microsoft shipped a EXPLORER.EXE with Windows 10 that is 20% whitespace because of an Adobe invented metadata format that I bet nobody involved with Windows ever thought about it. See http://ontology2.com/essays/LookingForMetadataInAllTheWrongP...

> Quick note: The situation is not different on Linux, MacOS, or other operating systems because all executable formats have some way to embed images. What publishers should do is remove unncessary metadata before publishing, which is easy to do in the case of the PNG because we can simply omit the iTXt chunk. From your link - so I guess the situation on linux isn't different? Or am I missing something, other than th…

If we're comparing platforms, Xcode (Apple's IDE for iOS/macOS apps) runs pngcrush on all PNG assets by default.
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