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Firefox Focus – A new private browser for iOS and Android

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Re: Firefox Focus – A new private browser for iOS and Android

#101
post #7

According to F-Droid [1], it contains `com.google.android.gms:play-services-analytics`. [1]: https://gitlab.com/fdroid/rfp/issues/171#note_30410376

Historically, even though GA was part of GMS, it did not require GMS to operate. You might be OK without GMS ... but things may have changed since the addition of firebase.

Re: Firefox Focus – A new private browser for iOS and Android

#102
post #7

According to F-Droid [1], it contains `com.google.android.gms:play-services-analytics`. [1]: https://gitlab.com/fdroid/rfp/issues/171#note_30410376

Historically, even though GA was part of GMS, it did not require GMS to operate. You might be OK without GMS. I'm not sure now that there has been transitioning over to firebase.

Re: Firefox Focus – A new private browser for iOS and Android

#103

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Your assumptions are correct.

Mh. It's amazing how far apart I got from every single one of Mozilla's visions, from using Firefox as my main browser 8 years ago. I love the fact that—as an example—as I travel Google shows me tools that I'll be interested in, like a currency converter, translate + word of the day in the local language, etc. etc. I would absolutely hate having my main browser constantly forget who I am. I feel almost blessed every…

I absolutely could not agree less. Every time Google shows me some sort of "magic" that I know involves their massive compendium of personal data, I'm reminded of how much I been detest that they've stolen that information from me. No matter how much I opt out, say no, and turn things off, they continue to extract wealth from my need for basic modern services. I can't tell you much much I appreciate Mozilla understanding that and releasing products that feel usable without being exploitive.

Re: Firefox Focus – A new private browser for iOS and Android

#105

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Maybe, but Mozilla has a quite a record for using firefox for surveillance and spying purpose, the early versions of firefox had a proprietary modules just for this purpose and the recent version have 'telemetry'. AFAIK f-droid always had a warning about firefox containing and promoting non free in addition of tracking users from https://f-droid.org/wiki/page/org.mozilla.firefox : This app has the NonFreeAdd Antifeat…

Is this FUD or serious? Because they are certainly claiming to be the opposite of that these days.

They just recently had a PR disaster because Firefox included Google Analytics in the Addon menu.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14753546

Re: Firefox Focus – A new private browser for iOS and Android

#106

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Maybe, but Mozilla has a quite a record for using firefox for surveillance and spying purpose, the early versions of firefox had a proprietary modules just for this purpose and the recent version have 'telemetry'. AFAIK f-droid always had a warning about firefox containing and promoting non free in addition of tracking users from https://f-droid.org/wiki/page/org.mozilla.firefox : This app has the NonFreeAdd Antifeat…

Is this FUD or serious? Because they are certainly claiming to be the opposite of that these days.

This is simply history.

The proprietary module (now long removed) is among the reasons the iceweasel project was born (not the debian one but the GNU one that has been renamed icecat when debian took over the iceweasel name).

It is a known fact that for years 90% or more of mozilla money came from google in exchange for making its search engine the default including tracking through an additional parameter in the URL.

There is waterfox a project to build a firefox version free of the mozilla tracking and crap: https://www.waterfoxproject.org/

    Disabled Encrypted Media Extensions (EME)
    Disabled Web Runtime (deprecated as of 2015)
    Removed Pocket
    Removed Telemetry
    Removed data collection
    Removed startup profiling
    Allow running of all 64-Bit NPAPI plugins
    Allow running of unsigned extensions
    Removal of Sponsored Tiles on New Tab Page
    Addition of Duplicate Tab option
    Locale selector in about:preferences > General
For the android version, the f-droid page does not exist anymore since firefox has been removed from f-droid, but there the wiki archive I linked earlier: https://f-droid.org/wiki/page/org.mozilla.firefox

There used to be a collection of privacy patches to remove all the tracking, leaking and privacy issues but I can't find it through web search, it seems to have been replaced by https://github.com/williex/firefox-privacy

Mozilla insist it is health report, analytics and telemetry which is marketing words for tracking and spying.

Re: Firefox Focus – A new private browser for iOS and Android

#107
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I see. Honestly, most of the time when I use Google Searches is because I want to look for something, and I love when Google personalizes results so that if I type "Amiga" it knows it's the computer and I don't want to learn Spanish. Most importantly, I end up visiting lots of websites that I might want to comment on, visit later on/not lose if my phone dies, share with my girlfriend, etc. I personally don't see any…

I want to see the same internet as everyone else. The more my experience is customized to me, the more disconnected I am from people who aren't like me, and the more our views will diverge over time. Ultimately it leads to bad outcomes; Trump, or possibly eventually civil war. So I am against too much automatic hidden customisation. You might think that's hyperbole. I don't. I'm deadly serious; I think something wors…

Everyone else is getting a customized internet view. Using Google through a private browser ensures you see an internet seen by nobody else.

Re: Firefox Focus – A new private browser for iOS and Android

#109
post #18

I have tried to set normal Firefox (55) for Android browser to open links by default in private mode but unfortunately I don't know how. Why "browser.privatebrowsing.autostart" set to "true" does not work on Android version? PS: I know I can clear everything (cookies, history, etc.) on exit.

Just set Firefox Focus as the default, and if you want to keep the link open, use Menu -> Open with Firefox. That way you can vet links with privacy on by default.

Re: Firefox Focus – A new private browser for iOS and Android

#110

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I'm relatively uninformed here, but Google often requires Android app developers to bundle Google Play Services for various features like Chromecast[1]. It is possible that the Mozilla folks needed Google Play Services for some feature. [1]: https://developers.google.com/cast/docs/android_sender_setup

Maybe, but Mozilla has a quite a record for using firefox for surveillance and spying purpose, the early versions of firefox had a proprietary modules just for this purpose and the recent version have 'telemetry'. AFAIK f-droid always had a warning about firefox containing and promoting non free in addition of tracking users from https://f-droid.org/wiki/page/org.mozilla.firefox : This app has the NonFreeAdd Antifeat…

It is not surveillance or spying ffs!!!! It is telemetry, which is anonymized data for the purpose of statistics and crash analysis.

remember, you can check the source code. You can build your own version. Telemetry helps people. Telemetry helps Mozilla deliver better firefox. STOP SPREADING FUD.

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