She's as evil as she is hideous.
Message encryption a 'problem' – UK home secretary
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Re: Message encryption a 'problem' – UK home secretary
#102Oh god, I despair of this country. After a decade of conservative I have never been so disillusioned. I feel like I am stuck in a rut or like, I don't belong here. It is a horrible feeling. Deep down I know that the government is stuck in 1740 and by the time that millennials walk the halls of power, their parents will have signed away all their rights. The very last thing I love is my country, that is for sure.
Iktf. The Brexit shit won't wash away, not in our lifetimes. I'm looking at France or Switzerland. This Bizarro country can't be the best that humanity can do.
You realise that Switzerland isn't in the EU...right?
Re: Message encryption a 'problem' – UK home secretary
#103Earlier quoted context omitted.
She wants to institute pervasive spying (targeted spying can be achieved by individually planting hardware backdoors, or simply recording the suspect entering their password). But pointing out the harms of pervasive spying is a weak argument, because she didn't deny (or even address) those harms?
> She wants to institute pervasive spying (targeted spying can be achieved by individually planting hardware backdoors, or simply recording the suspect entering their password). I can see targetted spying is possible today. It sounds like she wants targeted spying to be cheaper, and restricted by the judicial system. > But pointing out the harms of pervasive spying is a weak argument, because she didn't deny (or even…
I don't know if you're being deliberately obtuse, but I'll humour you:
> It sounds like she wants targeted spying to be cheaper, and restricted by the judicial system.
The cheaper that spying is, the more spying gets done - this has been repeatedly shown in many countries, even supposedly free ones, so lets not pretend this will result in the government saving a few bucks on security. It will result in (continued) data collection on a massive scale, the kind that is increasingly being hampered by encryption. Does 'Snowden' ring a bell?
> ..wasn't pointing out the harms of pervasive spying.. ..she should expose her metadata..
While I agree that the argument "if she thinks it's okay she should let folks spy on her" is weak (it's always possible to find someone crazy/sold-out enough to do whatever is being pushed), that's not actually the argument, except in the most literal reading.
The argument is twofold. First, pointing out that there are harms and she's aware of them, despite not addressing them, because she refuses to disclose her communications. Second, that the spying will be used asymmetrically - you, dear citizen, will have all your communications recorded, stored indefinitely, and subject to discovery when some prosecutor or large corporation decides to do away with you. But try and find out which corporations are sponsoring which politicians, who owns them, and what kind of deals those politicians are making in your name, and you'll meet a stone wall of silence - just like in the TTIP negotiations.
But the OP put it more concisely and humorously.
> There are stronger arguments, such as asserting our right to privacy
I don't think this is a stronger argument. In fact, I don't think this is an argument at all. First of all, it's circular - the law shouldn't strip us of our right to privacy, because the law gives us the right to privacy. Second, it won't convince anyone, it's just pointing out the status quo - sure we have a right to privacy, but so what? What harm will come of losing it?
Re: Message encryption a 'problem' – UK home secretary
#104There is a growing misconception that it is the role of the government to "keep their citizens safe". Although that it is often the intention of legislation to prevent behaviour which may lead to unsafe situations. For example, making it illegal to drink and drive. You can arrest someone for breaking the law, but never can you arrest someone right up to the point of breaking the law. For example, You cannot arrest so…
>For example, You cannot arrest someone for being drunk and having their car keys in their pocket, or even being asleep in the car while drunk. An aside, but this is not true. "According to Alabama state law, Hand was deemed to be in “constructive possession” of the vehicle, and although he wasn’t driving and the vehicle was parked, the keys being in the car was the determinant that triggered the arrest."" https://ww…
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Re: Message encryption a 'problem' – UK home secretary
#105> When pressed on what kind of metadata she wanted, she replied: “I’m having those conversations in private.” Well I would like to know who she's having those conversations with, when she's having them, and how long they last. I think it's important that she share this information with us. So that we can catch criminals.
It is important that the medium she is using to make these conversation build meta-data around these conversations. And then uses AI and machine learning to detect potentially harmful content and inform the authorities.
The upper cla... I mean Parliament should be exempt, of course.
Re: Message encryption a 'problem' – UK home secretary
#106See also: envelopes considered 'a problem' by tyrannical government.
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#107> When pressed on what kind of metadata she wanted, she replied: “I’m having those conversations in private.” Well I would like to know who she's having those conversations with, when she's having them, and how long they last. I think it's important that she share this information with us. So that we can catch criminals.
And if she's nothing to hide then she's nothing to fear of them being made known, right?
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#108Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's interesting. Looks like he was a member of the Continuity IRA[0]. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuity_Irish_Republican_Ar...
I don't know how much of this you know, but there are several "dissident" republican and loyalist terror groups that have remained active since the Good Friday Agreements. The Omagh bombing, with the biggest loss of life of any attack in the Troubles, was carried out by dissident republicans after the agreement. The last republican bombings on British soil (not in Northern Ireland) were by the Real IRA in 2001, but t…
I know about the IRA in general from the news & living in the UK. I hadn't realised splinter groups were still at it.
I don't tend to read the news -- so haven't heard much about Sinn Fein[0] recently, for example. Looking up SF, I've just learned they are left-wing. I'd assumed they were right-wing nationalists.
Guess the answer to how much I know about this subject is, a wee bit.
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#109The Paris attacks were coordinated over plain old encrypted SMS. Didn't see that coming.
The Australian PM thinks the laws of mathematics can be bent to those of Australia.
Now this genius.
Fact is, communications are ubiquitous now, and even if every byte was unencrypted, they won't be able to catch every crook.
Re: Message encryption a 'problem' – UK home secretary
#110Earlier quoted context omitted.
I found the John Oliver episode about Snowden to be very good at conveying the ideas of privacy. Just mention that the govt can decrypt your dick pics and sexting if these laws pass.
You know this argument might well work for Theresa May.
"You mean GCHQ can see running through wheat field pics? Let's ... let's just take a step back, shall we?"