what are your thoughts on https://www.vivobarefoot.com/us ?
I own multiple pairs of Vivos for casual wear — most of them developed holes in the soles pretty quickly. I still buy them because they're affordable when on sale, and look fairly decent.
We Evolved to Run But We're Doing It Wrong
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#102> he calls treadmills the "junk food of exercise. > he believes running barefoot is more natural—and less likely to result in injury. This has always bothered me, and, even on HN, it still bothers me. Too many experts. I ran track and XC (HS, DIII, then DI for a season), did 100+ miles/week, won a half marathon, etc. Reasonably successful without any injuries, over ~15 years. Even I would get constant advice from eve…
Wait until you get into your 40's and 50's, that's often when lots of bad habits start to cause problems.
Where's your evidence? I assume you have a multi-decade longitudinal study to back up your claim?
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#103There are a lot of reasons to run, but if general fitness is the goal, I've found that sprinting, and in particular uphill sprinting, is the most effective and time-efficient.
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#104Earlier quoted context omitted.
You're exactly right it's a big mess of conjecture. He's not done research or methodical testing. Nutrition, excercise, running, all seem to make anyone comfortable giving advice, with even the smallest amount of anecdotal personal experience. Why is it you can walk into a gym (or any place) and be told with such confidence the best way to run, eat, sleep? It's not that I don't want to hear it, I'd love to hear how t…
It's really commercial products that have to demonstrate they're providing a benefit compared to what's been the norm for millions of years. And they've never done so to my knowledge. That said, if you've been particularly sedentary or aren't used to walking barefoot, you should definitely be careful in the transition. Individual physical histories, mobility, etc. have to be taken into account when recommending advic…
People stepped on glass an nails many times in the past. Is this not part of your knowledge? Perhaps I'm biased, as I have a scar running up my foot from having run barefoot as a child.
Furthermore, I can honestly attribute none of my current good health to it.
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TL;DR, the gist of the "wrong" is that we've been trained by "trainers" (over-padded athletic shoes) to run in a straight-legged, heel-lands-first manner. Any reputable running clinic will teach you to make contact with the ground at the middle of your foot with a slightly bent knee. That's just well understood, proper technique, regardless of footwear. The real problem is people hitting the pavement without learning…
Having been to a run clinic, I can absolutely call bull on the claim "Footwear is irrelevant, here.". At least the run clinic I went to assured me multiple times that my impression that wearing "trainers" specifically and greatly increases the difficulty of running "correctly" by striking with the middle of your foot with slightly bent knee. The large heel of virtually all training shoes makes landing in the middle o…
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The ball of the foot is doing the pushing at that point, and the ball of the foot finishes the liftoff. Try and take a few steps where the ball leaves the ground before the heel, you'll see.
The ball of my foot may be the last thing to leave the ground, but when I run barefoot style, I'm pushing off with my heel.
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You're right. Thanks. Pushing off with the heel is actually specifically (if indirectly) part of what I'm working on with the bodyworker I mentioned, even. I really should have completed the thought. Thanks for catching and clarifying that.
Oh, another thing: $20 water shoes last only slightly less long than $100+ speciality 'barefoot' running shoes. :) https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002Z7EOK8/ref=oh_aui_deta...
They might last as long, but do they work the same? I have $5 socks that outlast my shoes, but socks aren't exactly a replacement for shoes, right? Water shoes and barefoot running shoes seem like two different types of foot covering.
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#109Earlier quoted context omitted.
Wait until you get into your 40's and 50's, that's often when lots of bad habits start to cause problems.
Where's your evidence? I assume you have a multi-decade longitudinal study to back up your claim?
Everyone says "I'm paying for X behavior from my 20s" when they reach middle age. In reality, it's just that's when the body begins to wear down and people naturally want to blame it on something so we invented a euphemism for it.
It's not science, there's no evidence. People in their 50s start to hurt more, and injuries that never healed right can be ignored when you're young, but start to hurt again later on. It's just a fact of life. If you tore your ACL in high school, when arthritis starts to kick in, you're going to feel that old injury again, because a torn ACL never really heals.
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> The Fine Article doesn't really go into how we're doing it wrong The way I understood it is that it's wrong for it to be considered a "sport" rather than a "meditation", that is, it should be less about competition and more about relaxation.
That makes the reference to evolutionary origins even more confusing, as I doubt our ancestors were ‘meditating’ while running prey to ground. If it is truly a survival thing, then running under stress inducing circumstances (hunger, competition, forced exercise etc) would be more in line with what Gorg the cave man was doing...
So what? The fact that something evolved for a reason doesn't mean that you have to do it for the same reason. Take outdoor camping, for instance. Our "ability to camp" evolved, because we had to survive in the wilderness. Yet, many people today do it (from time to time) for fun, not because we lived in the wild in the past.