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Re: Tesla Model 3 First Drive Review

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Post by ClassyJacket »

chc wrote: post #70
prostoalex wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Elon mentioned the interior was redesigned with full autonomy in mind. I guess the use case "driver maintaining the vehicle speed via non-autonomous pedal pressure while wanting to check the vehicle speed because he did not enable cruise mode" is a weird edge case for them. On autopilot the car will stick to the assigned speed (with adaptive cruise control slowing down or speeding up depending on the traffic in front…

It's pretty bizarre to treat driving without an $8000 options package as a weird edge case. If autonomous driving is that central, it seems like it should be a basic feature, not an upgrade.

Without an 8000$ options package that won't be available in most places for several years.

Re: Tesla Model 3 First Drive Review

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Post by Turbots »

randyrand wrote: post #36
mack1001 wrote: post #3

If everything goes right, Model 3 can change the business model of cars. Shift to value add + functionality upgrade based pricing versus a sales and service oriented model.

Also they own the repair market. You can't get your tesla serviced at a normal shop as the software, parts, and diagnostics are proprietary, so they could actually sell the car at a loss and make the big bucks on repairs. I don't want this. But its a viable business model.

The thing is that the Tesla S models out there have not been needing lots of servicing at all... So only if the service cost is MUCH higher does that prove your point (but I'm not aware if it is)

Re: Tesla Model 3 First Drive Review

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Post by samnwa »

Roritharr wrote: post #46

I really hope the German government does something to make it more desirable for employees to want the Model 3 or similar cars as company cars. Just to explain the involved costs: There's two ways the government taxes company cars for employees, either you get to write a driving log, that then marks each route as either private or business and then you get the privately driven part taxed as income OR you just get 1%…

Yes, but the Tesla looks cool so even business owners can see that.

Re: Tesla Model 3 First Drive Review

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Post by akx »

adventured wrote: post #60

I'm curious about the risk of the center detached tablet becoming a loose, dangerous projectile in the event of a crash. I haven't seen anything so far on how they've attached it to ensure that's not a problem in hard collisions.

I think "tablet" is a misnomer here (though understandable) - calling it a touchscreen would be better. Anyway, seems it's sturdily attached: http://st.motortrend.com/uploads/sites/5/2017/07/Tesla-Model...

Re: Tesla Model 3 First Drive Review

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Post by izacus »

Roritharr wrote: post #46

I really hope the German government does something to make it more desirable for employees to want the Model 3 or similar cars as company cars. Just to explain the involved costs: There's two ways the government taxes company cars for employees, either you get to write a driving log, that then marks each route as either private or business and then you get the privately driven part taxed as income OR you just get 1%…

You literaly want German government to subsidize purchase of products built by certain american corporation?

Re: Tesla Model 3 First Drive Review

#106

Post by reportingsjr »

laydn wrote: post #81
jimmcslim wrote: post #12

Is there a HUD or do I have to move my eyes to the centre console to check my speed? Seems like bad ergonomics to me... and whereas the road ahead is perhaps still in my peripheral vision when I check my speedo, its less so if I am glancing at the centre console (which maybe has a bunch of other distracting things on it as well?)

Center console indicators are quite common. One advantage is that, the indicators are never blocked when you are in a turn. With your traditional instrument cluster placement, the steering wheel blocks the indicators. Cars with instruments in the center dashboard: Mini Cooper: http://images.hgmsites.net/lrg/2010-mini-cooper-hardtop-2-do... Toyota Yaris: https://cars.usnews.com/static/images/Auto/izmo/306771/2009_...…

I have the Toyota Prius C which is based on the yaris. I absolutely love the center console indicator and hate driving cars with it behind the wheel now. I'm really glad to see more manufacturers switching to the center console displays.

Re: Tesla Model 3 First Drive Review

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Post by 83457 »

TheSpiceIsLife wrote: post #84
guelo wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yea that interior is kind of weird looking http://st.motortrend.com/uploads/sites/5/2017/07/Tesla-Model...

I don't follow how that interior design, with important information for the driver off to the right, can pass safety regulations. Presumably an exception is made because the car (mostly?) knows the speed limit and alerts if you exceed? I'm making s wild guess here. Maybe it's actually less distracting than having instrumentation in front of you? I'd like to hire on for a few days when the opportunity arises.

My wife's has driven a Yaris for 10+ years which has everything on center console. You get used to it within minutes of driving it. Obviously it is perfectly legal

Re: Tesla Model 3 First Drive Review

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Post by izacus »

mach5 wrote: post #96
kumarvvr wrote: post #6

What sort of maintenance are performed on these cars?? Seems like there is nothing to be maintained, given the all steel, aluminum, glass stuff everywhere. Does it have any oil changes required, like in brakes or transmission?

i can't speak for the Model 3, but i own a Bolt, here's the service schedule for that: * every 7,500mi: rotate tires * every 22,500mi: change cabin air filter * every 5 years: replace brake fluid * every 150,000mi: replace battery cooling fluid that's it. crazy!

> * every 7,500mi: rotate tires

What's that?

Re: Tesla Model 3 First Drive Review

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Post by hoorayimhelping »

laydn wrote: post #81
jimmcslim wrote: post #12

Is there a HUD or do I have to move my eyes to the centre console to check my speed? Seems like bad ergonomics to me... and whereas the road ahead is perhaps still in my peripheral vision when I check my speedo, its less so if I am glancing at the centre console (which maybe has a bunch of other distracting things on it as well?)

Center console indicators are quite common. One advantage is that, the indicators are never blocked when you are in a turn. With your traditional instrument cluster placement, the steering wheel blocks the indicators. Cars with instruments in the center dashboard: Mini Cooper: http://images.hgmsites.net/lrg/2010-mini-cooper-hardtop-2-do... Toyota Yaris: https://cars.usnews.com/static/images/Auto/izmo/306771/2009_...…

>With your traditional instrument cluster placement, the steering wheel blocks the indicators.

who cares? I'm not looking at my speedo or tack in a turn, I'm watching the road. This feels like justifying poor design with an edge case.

Re: Tesla Model 3 First Drive Review

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Post by Roritharr »

izacus wrote: post #105
Roritharr wrote: post #46

I really hope the German government does something to make it more desirable for employees to want the Model 3 or similar cars as company cars. Just to explain the involved costs: There's two ways the government taxes company cars for employees, either you get to write a driving log, that then marks each route as either private or business and then you get the privately driven part taxed as income OR you just get 1%…

You literaly want German government to subsidize purchase of products built by certain american corporation?

As a german having contact with many german car engineers and managers, our car brands really need a wake-up call. Badly.
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