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Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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Post by sigjuice » Tue, Jul 18, 2017, 3:34 PM UTC

aabaker99 wrote: post #90

hellofunk wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> and will replace Android as soon as a viable alternative is presented One alternative that's been around for a while you might like if you want to continue using smart mobile devices is an operating system made by Apple (not Google), called iOS (used to be called iPhone OS but it can now be used on tablets too even some music players like iPods have it). Just throwing that out there, they have a lot of similar feat…

The OP seems concerned about privacy. Apple certainly has a lot of PR activity promoting privacy of their products. But at the same time it seems so many websites, apps, companies, ISPs, etc. are hoping to track their users much more than before. Perhaps even sell profiles on their users to advertisers or other tech companies. Apple also seems to be a fairly secretive company. Their products have historically felt mo…

Apple takes your money up front so they don't need to violate user privacy for business reasons.

Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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Post by StavrosK » Tue, Jul 18, 2017, 3:36 PM UTC

hellofunk wrote: post #63

lettergram wrote: post #10

I for one, will never use a Google product again. They level of creepiness and data they have on all their users is insane. I personally have switched to DuckDuckGo, Fastmail, FireFox (the mobile browser is awesome btw), and will replace Android as soon as a viable alternative is presented. Smooth sailing. The problem with Google, is they are building a repository for themselves, but also for government. Couple that…

> and will replace Android as soon as a viable alternative is presented One alternative that's been around for a while you might like if you want to continue using smart mobile devices is an operating system made by Apple (not Google), called iOS (used to be called iPhone OS but it can now be used on tablets too even some music players like iPods have it). Just throwing that out there, they have a lot of similar feat…

iOS is better for privacy (Apple is more inept at cloud stuff than Google) but much, much worse for freedom. I don't want a device that I'll have to get Apple's permission to install stuff on.

Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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Post by Genevieve44 » Tue, Jul 18, 2017, 3:40 PM UTC

kolbe wrote: post #74

diegoperini wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is this sarcasm? (honest question)

I read it more as deadpan comedy.

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Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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Post by peteretep » Tue, Jul 18, 2017, 3:40 PM UTC

agentgt wrote: post #41

My company makes recruiting software and it we knew it was only a matter of time (a couple of years ago... now its obvious) before Google would enter the recruiting industry. Particularly because the major players other than LinkedIn basically rely entirely on Google. All Indeed, Monster, CareerBuilder do is buy Google Ads and then essentially resells the marketing. This is similar to the situation TripAdvisor is in…

    > All Indeed, Monster, CareerBuilder do
    > is buy Google Ads and then essentially
    > resells the marketing

That is true of Indeed, but true neither of Monster nor CareerBuilder. CareerBuilder sell a lot of HR software, as well.

    > if you wondering the what the difference
    > is between aggregator and job board

Generally one pays for the latter and not the former, in fact.

Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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Post by nateps » Tue, Jul 18, 2017, 3:41 PM UTC

Androider wrote: post #30

I was just about to select a recruitment management service. Both Lever and Greenhouse has "call us" pricing, and sadly Google Hire follows the same trend. Only Workable has a clear pricing page, which gives them a big plus in my book. Since we're on G Suite, Hire could be a natural fit but the requirement to book a demo (and the accompanying upside-down shaking to see how much money falls out of our pockets) is a bi…

Hi there! I'm Nate, Founder and CTO of Lever.

Appreciate your feedback! As you've discovered, many B2B companies that primarily sell via inside or field sales do not post their pricing directly. Reserving the conversation around pricing until after you are in contact with a sales person is often helpful, because these products do have very different capabilities. We provide a consultative sales approach, listening carefully to what a prospect is looking to achieve with their talent acquisition strategy.

Lever's products are different. We believe that in order predictably master your hiring goals, you must go beyond applicants and get in front of the best candidates for your company. You must go outbound with referrals, sourcing, and more—speaking to the people that are the very best fit for your team's needs. Applicants are a vital piece of the puzzle, and Lever absolutely provides all of the features that applicant focused products provide. However, those features are seamlessly integrated into Lever Hire, which is a full CRM for job candidates + an applicant tracking system.

We recently posted a piece describing how the Shopify team has used Lever to grow from a a few hundred to over 1900 employees. Sourcing was a key part of their strategy. https://www.lever.co/blog/how-shopify-revolutionized-proacti...

Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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Post by peteretep » Tue, Jul 18, 2017, 3:41 PM UTC

Androider wrote: post #30

I was just about to select a recruitment management service. Both Lever and Greenhouse has "call us" pricing, and sadly Google Hire follows the same trend. Only Workable has a clear pricing page, which gives them a big plus in my book. Since we're on G Suite, Hire could be a natural fit but the requirement to book a demo (and the accompanying upside-down shaking to see how much money falls out of our pockets) is a bi…

I know this space well. I like Recruitee.

Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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Post by Peroni » Tue, Jul 18, 2017, 3:41 PM UTC

Androider wrote: post #30

I was just about to select a recruitment management service. Both Lever and Greenhouse has "call us" pricing, and sadly Google Hire follows the same trend. Only Workable has a clear pricing page, which gives them a big plus in my book. Since we're on G Suite, Hire could be a natural fit but the requirement to book a demo (and the accompanying upside-down shaking to see how much money falls out of our pockets) is a bi…

Used Workable, Greenhouse and Lever extensively over the past few years and my recommendation would definitely depend on the size of your company. If you're fewer than 200 people, then I categorically recommend Workable. Anything larger and Greenhouse tends to edge it for me. Lever is pretty awful regardless to be honest.

Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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Post by bflesch » Tue, Jul 18, 2017, 3:42 PM UTC

nolok wrote: post #76

agentgt wrote: post #41

My company makes recruiting software and it we knew it was only a matter of time (a couple of years ago... now its obvious) before Google would enter the recruiting industry. Particularly because the major players other than LinkedIn basically rely entirely on Google. All Indeed, Monster, CareerBuilder do is buy Google Ads and then essentially resells the marketing. This is similar to the situation TripAdvisor is in…

Honestly the work to be done in search in general is still gigantic, and it's even bigger in job. Despite having tons of stores of all sorts (app stores by microsoft apple and google, movies streaming stores like netflix, game stores like steam, ...) no one has truly found a way to solve the discoverability problem that feels really satisfying. Some are decent, but that's mostly by sending you so many stuff at once t…

To solve the appstore search issue Apple should just check what apps my imessage contacts are using and then recommend those apps to me.

Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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Post by mxuribe » Tue, Jul 18, 2017, 3:45 PM UTC

Because I'm actively looking for another job, i instantly started thinking, "so how can i hack this to my benefit". Other than having my public profiles easy to have indexed by google, and continuing to apply for relevant jobs, I'm not seeing an angle...at least not one that benefits candidates (like myself) applying for jobs. Unless i'm missing something...?

Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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Post by onion2k » Tue, Jul 18, 2017, 3:46 PM UTC

chris__butters wrote: post #100

Let's see how many businesses are destroyed and how much money Google makes because of this. It's a shame they can't just stand back and let people use websites like Indeed, Monster, JobSite among others and let them get on with it and just make money from the ads. Do they not make enough already?

Let's see how many businesses are destroyed and how much money Google makes because of this.

If someone writes a script that destroys a business then the business couldn't have been adding much value to whatever it was selling. In this case Hire will likely sink some of the recruiters out there who match words on resumes to words on job descriptions for a 25%-of-the-candidates-salary fee, but that's not really a bad thing. Those people aren't adding value. Recruiters who actually work for their money by finding and coaching candidates, understanding the needs of their clients, actually knowing what those keywords are so they can do a 'fuzzy' match to find good candidates who might not be immediately apparent will still have a solid business offering that's worth paying for.