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Re: Ask HN: What about a platform for hiring teams instead of individuals?

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Post by _ar7 »

tpae wrote: post #25

Please checkout our startup: https://www.superteam.io/ We're currently accepting closed beta testers. We're a platform designed to create teams with freelancers. Our mission is to make freelancing easy as possible, through team collaboration and specialization.

* Why do I have to download an 8MB payload on load, most of which consists of 1MB+ PNGs, which aren't even visible until I scroll?

* Why are you doing some unintuitive scroll-jacking?

* Why are you using React for literally a single scrollable page?

* Why are you putting the scroll position into the URL instead of somewhere like local storage? It's annoying that I can't even leave the page without pressing back multiple times.

ugh

Re: Ask HN: What about a platform for hiring teams instead of individuals?

#102

Post by tpae »

_ar7 wrote: post #101
tpae wrote: post #25

Please checkout our startup: https://www.superteam.io/ We're currently accepting closed beta testers. We're a platform designed to create teams with freelancers. Our mission is to make freelancing easy as possible, through team collaboration and specialization.

* Why do I have to download an 8MB payload on load, most of which consists of 1MB+ PNGs, which aren't even visible until I scroll? * Why are you doing some unintuitive scroll-jacking? * Why are you using React for literally a single scrollable page? * Why are you putting the scroll position into the URL instead of somewhere like local storage? It's annoying that I can't even leave the page without pressing back multi…

Thank you for the awesome feedback. :-) I am sorry if it frustrated you.

Sorry about the mega payload. I was still in process of optimizing it when this thread came out 5am this morning (I saw it during my morning jog). I knew we had to get this out there ASAP.

Scroll-jacking is annoying, I know. I'm in the process of fixing it. I think we need to optimize our designs first.

I'm using React with next.js, which makes deployment + development super simple.

The point of scroll position was for URL shortcuts, sorry about that! I'll disable the history and maybe that will make things better.

Re: Ask HN: What about a platform for hiring teams instead of individuals?

#103

Post by d--b »

oDot wrote: post #77
d--b wrote: post #76

> However building teams on in individual hires take too much time and effort, with no knowledge about compatibility or assurance regarding the resulting efficiency of the team Yes, but the cost of integrating too different cultures is also pretty steep. A group of people will tend to resist change stronger than an individual person. When you hire new people, they tend to bring what they know, arguing with things lik…

I can't understand why that's a problem. I am a great believer in "strong opinions, weakly held". Now, I do agree that "trust me it's cool" is not a very good explanation, but if a good one is provided, and if it's better than what you currently have, you should listen up and change your ways. Otherwise that new hire will go on HN ranting about you saying "trust me, we're doing it that way for a while and it's great.…

Well, in fact you do need a certain obedience from your new hires.

It's a bit optimistic to believe that every choice a team makes is 100% rational. Choice of a certain technology, coding language, coding style, management methodology, all these things are fairly cultural in the sense that people tend to push for things they're more confortable with.

My point is that integrating 2 teams of people where each group has a strong culture is a hard thing to do. It's really natural to form camps.

For instance, you're the cto of your company, and one of your principle is to limit your dependency on third party components. And you hire a team, where their culture is to build quickly on a lot of 3rd party libraries.

Nobody's fundamentally right or wrong, but the new hires will think that "we've joined this super controlling company that ties our hands and we can't do shit". And the cto will think: "crap we've hired this team of cowboys who will add a lot of operational risk to our processes".

And in a meeting where you try to explain your principles, it's way harder to impose your culture when you're fighting 10 people than if you fight 1 person.

Re: Ask HN: What about a platform for hiring teams instead of individuals?

#104

Post by _ar7 »

tpae wrote: post #102
_ar7 wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

* Why do I have to download an 8MB payload on load, most of which consists of 1MB+ PNGs, which aren't even visible until I scroll? * Why are you doing some unintuitive scroll-jacking? * Why are you using React for literally a single scrollable page? * Why are you putting the scroll position into the URL instead of somewhere like local storage? It's annoying that I can't even leave the page without pressing back multi…

Thank you for the awesome feedback. :-) I am sorry if it frustrated you. Sorry about the mega payload. I was still in process of optimizing it when this thread came out 5am this morning (I saw it during my morning jog). I knew we had to get this out there ASAP. Scroll-jacking is annoying, I know. I'm in the process of fixing it. I think we need to optimize our designs first. I'm using React with next.js, which makes…

Lol now I feel bad for perhaps coming off a bit too harsh. I appreciate you taking my feedback into consideration. Best of luck with your company!

Re: Ask HN: What about a platform for hiring teams instead of individuals?

#106

Post by tpae »

_ar7 wrote: post #104
tpae wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thank you for the awesome feedback. :-) I am sorry if it frustrated you. Sorry about the mega payload. I was still in process of optimizing it when this thread came out 5am this morning (I saw it during my morning jog). I knew we had to get this out there ASAP. Scroll-jacking is annoying, I know. I'm in the process of fixing it. I think we need to optimize our designs first. I'm using React with next.js, which makes…

Lol now I feel bad for perhaps coming off a bit too harsh. I appreciate you taking my feedback into consideration. Best of luck with your company!

You had strong valid points :)

Thank you for the feedback! Look forward to hear from us again. ;)

Re: Ask HN: What about a platform for hiring teams instead of individuals?

#109

Post by brudgers »

jlgosse wrote: post #5

Stripe does this with BYOT: https://stripe.com/blog/bring-your-own-team I've also worked at multiple organizations now where a great trick is to hire one "influencer" and then slowly hire everyone they know.

For me, the interesting parts of Stripe's description of BYOT are the size limit 2-5 and the acknowledgement that it is an experiment. The size because of the current top comment to the question describes a larger team and the problem of pruning for needs and Stripe more or less shifts pruning to the team. The experiment because it seems directly drawn from YC's language regarding new programs -- maybe it will work and we'll try it out and see.
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