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Re: Waymo filing says Travis Kalanick knew engineer had Google info

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Post by ouid »

xenadu02 wrote: post #70
antisthenes wrote: post #61

The cherry on top is the history of eugenics in the US, with forced sterilizations extending into the 1970's (!) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics_in_the_United_States#... It's a chilling read, not for the faint of heart.

Fun fact: The Nazis looked to American Eugenics and race purity laws as an inspiration. It was only after the horrors of WW2 came out that the US rejected these policies.

that doesn't sound like a "fact". I'm not saying that you're wrong, I'm just saying that I don't believe you until you provide a source, i.e. some nazi expounding on how they never would have had the idea for racial purity if it hadn't been for america.

Re: Waymo filing says Travis Kalanick knew engineer had Google info

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Post by nafizh »

All this Uber talk is making me dizzy. Yeah, sure, Uber is a shitty company but there are tons of them. This disproportional attention to Uber is blindsiding everyone to a lot of them.

Maybe, someone should also check out Lyft for their employee treatment, company culture, and business practices. Because, apparently, they are the good guys and a lot of people are switching to them.

Re: Waymo filing says Travis Kalanick knew engineer had Google info

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Post by eridius »

michaeldunworth wrote: post #99
eridius wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just because Uber fought those fights doesn't mean nobody else could have fought them.

Actually that is exactly what it means. How many countries does Lyft operate in? Exactly. 1.

The fact that Lyft is US-only really has nothing at all to do with this claim. There are other car-sharing companies in other countries (for example, Didi Chuxing).

Re: Waymo filing says Travis Kalanick knew engineer had Google info

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Post by erikpukinskis »

sillysaurus3 wrote: post #49
digi_owl wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Basically my impression since i first heard about them. But many pushed them as just good old American "disrupters" of a "stale" market. That is until the first dirty underwear regarding office shenanigans were aired, and then the twittering classes did a one-eighty in their view of Uber. And from that point on the company has been circling the drain.

The myth that you can build a billion-dollar business without some shady dealings needs to die. Startups are usually faced with hard choices if they want to survive. Pretending like Kalanick himself endorsed sexual harassment is ridiculous. We don't know whether he knew, how much he knew, or how involved he was. All evidence points to "the trail of information stopped at HR." I think we like to pretend that startups…

> The myth that you can build a billion-dollar business without some shady dealings needs to die

The myth that sweeping statements like these are ever true needs to die.

Re: Waymo filing says Travis Kalanick knew engineer had Google info

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Post by Alex3917 »

daveFNbuck wrote: post #96
Alex3917 wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

U.S. declaring that mercury is no longer harmful and is safe for children: a couple weeks ago. It's not like the exact same type of stuff isn't still happening today, just no one cares until twenty years later or whatever.

I'm having trouble finding any source for this that links to any sources. Do you have evidence this actually happened?

http://earthjustice.org/news/press/2017/trump-s-epa-consider...

Or you can just google trump EPA mercury and take your pick of sources.

Re: Waymo filing says Travis Kalanick knew engineer had Google info

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Post by furioussloth »

eridius wrote: post #88
furioussloth wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Of course not but they deserve hella credit for this. Also i think with all the major investigation and changes they are doing more than makes up for lot of bad things they did. If anything justice is served and people should move on.

How is justice served? Uber has done a tremendous amount of really shitty things. And for most of it, there has been no "justice" served. Furthermore, you're taking it as a given that Uber flagrantly violating local laws in order to launch ridesharing is a good thing, but not everybody will agree with that.

Many people who had a better option than driving drunk will do. Many parents who wait for their kids to get home safe after parties will agree. The social good done is way higher to totally justify using some shady software to evade authorities. Ignoring sexual harassment complain was a huge mistake. But pretty much everyone involved was fired , an investigation by holder was carried out and most of his suggestions are being implemented. You have clearly not stayed in a city with really shitty taxi service.

Re: Waymo filing says Travis Kalanick knew engineer had Google info

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Post by fredgrott »

antisthenes wrote: post #61

The cherry on top is the history of eugenics in the US, with forced sterilizations extending into the 1970's (!) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics_in_the_United_States#... It's a chilling read, not for the faint of heart.

no that is not the chilling part...Bush Sr supported it and got it in motion..brings his brown little ones comment into better light doesn't it?

Re: Waymo filing says Travis Kalanick knew engineer had Google info

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Post by charlescearl »

xenadu02 wrote: post #70
antisthenes wrote: post #61

The cherry on top is the history of eugenics in the US, with forced sterilizations extending into the 1970's (!) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics_in_the_United_States#... It's a chilling read, not for the faint of heart.

Fun fact: The Nazis looked to American Eugenics and race purity laws as an inspiration. It was only after the horrors of WW2 came out that the US rejected these policies.

You might want to check the date of the US Supreme Court's Loving decision. The state of Alabama still had eugenics based laws on "miscegenation" until the 1970's.

Re: Waymo filing says Travis Kalanick knew engineer had Google info

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Post by charlescearl »

xenadu02 wrote: post #70
antisthenes wrote: post #61

The cherry on top is the history of eugenics in the US, with forced sterilizations extending into the 1970's (!) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics_in_the_United_States#... It's a chilling read, not for the faint of heart.

Fun fact: The Nazis looked to American Eugenics and race purity laws as an inspiration. It was only after the horrors of WW2 came out that the US rejected these policies.

You might want to check the date of the US Supreme Court's Loving decision. The state of Alabama still had eugenics based laws on "miscegenation" until the 1970's.

Re: Waymo filing says Travis Kalanick knew engineer had Google info

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Post by furioussloth »

eridius wrote: post #88
furioussloth wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Of course not but they deserve hella credit for this. Also i think with all the major investigation and changes they are doing more than makes up for lot of bad things they did. If anything justice is served and people should move on.

How is justice served? Uber has done a tremendous amount of really shitty things. And for most of it, there has been no "justice" served. Furthermore, you're taking it as a given that Uber flagrantly violating local laws in order to launch ridesharing is a good thing, but not everybody will agree with that.

Case in point http://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2017/04/daily-c...
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