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#101
post #78

Looks the time has come for a small country to create a data haven like the fictional Sultanate of Kinakuta . I believe that the idea will attract foreign investment quickly.

It doesn't need to be a country. Just get some container ships, sail to international waters dragging a fiber cable with you and bam, data haven. You could also operate as a secure key storage. No worries about governments requesting keys as there is no government.

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#102
A bit OT, but the kerning on the headline font in iOS safari is awful, especially between the 'o' and 'w'. It looks like a 'missing' font in a PDF.

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#103
post #9

I have mixed feelings about protonmail. On the one hand, they tend to be on the right side of political / legal issues, and this transparency report is nice: https://protonmail.com/blog/transparency-report/ On the other hand, they recently reduced the level of detail in the transparency report. There is also the fact that they are Swiss, and their privacy laws were severely weakened by a recent referendum. In particu…

What would be a good jurisdiction for them?

Germany has very strong privacy laws which is one of the reasons Amazon dropped an AWS region there. Customers are paying a premium for the jurisdiction.

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#104
post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What would be a good jurisdiction for them?

Germany has very strong privacy laws which is one of the reasons Amazon dropped an AWS region there. Customers are paying a premium for the jurisdiction.

If customers are paying a premium why would Amazon drop the region? Were the privacy laws too complex for them?

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#105
From their security page: "We exclusively use VPN protocols which are known to be secure (OpenVPN and IKEv2)."

OpenVPN and IKE both have terrible track records in terms of implementation security.

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#106
post #9

I have mixed feelings about protonmail. On the one hand, they tend to be on the right side of political / legal issues, and this transparency report is nice: https://protonmail.com/blog/transparency-report/ On the other hand, they recently reduced the level of detail in the transparency report. There is also the fact that they are Swiss, and their privacy laws were severely weakened by a recent referendum. In particu…

>ProtonMail fought the referendum, but hasn't updated this "Why Switzerland?" page: https://protonmail.com/blog/switzerland/" Agreed, and that referendum was back in September of 2016. That's almost 9 months ago. This seems really disingenuous. And the referendum didn't just eek by but it passed by 65%. So if the Swiss domicile doesn't offer the protections it once did, why would I choose this provider over any of th…

Because they still can't read your email, nobody can, even thought it is on their servers and crossing Swiss borders.

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#107
post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Germany has very strong privacy laws which is one of the reasons Amazon dropped an AWS region there. Customers are paying a premium for the jurisdiction.

If customers are paying a premium why would Amazon drop the region? Were the privacy laws too complex for them?

I think he means "dropped" as in "the rapper dropped his mixtape today", not as in "the service provider dropped their service due to lack of profitability".

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#108
post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Germany has very strong privacy laws which is one of the reasons Amazon dropped an AWS region there. Customers are paying a premium for the jurisdiction.

If customers are paying a premium why would Amazon drop the region? Were the privacy laws too complex for them?

"dropped" in this case = "added" or "dropped into place"

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#109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If customers are paying a premium why would Amazon drop the region? Were the privacy laws too complex for them?

I think he means "dropped" as in "the rapper dropped his mixtape today", not as in "the service provider dropped their service due to lack of profitability".

Well that's confusing :) Given your example is out of context and counter-example is perfectly in context.

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#110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>ProtonMail fought the referendum, but hasn't updated this "Why Switzerland?" page: https://protonmail.com/blog/switzerland/" Agreed, and that referendum was back in September of 2016. That's almost 9 months ago. This seems really disingenuous. And the referendum didn't just eek by but it passed by 65%. So if the Swiss domicile doesn't offer the protections it once did, why would I choose this provider over any of th…

Because they still can't read your email, nobody can, even thought it is on their servers and crossing Swiss borders.

Then they should stop claiming that switzerland is protecting them to a degree that they aren't anymore, and explain why their encryption is still secure
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