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I belong to the third world of the third world. State called Uttar Pradesh. If you consider India as 3rd world, then UP is 3rd world of India. Here are the emotional benefits of Aadhar : My parents don't have to bribe the local gas connections distribution agents. Which means, No need to stay in long queue from 8 In the morning, not to get your cooking cylinder, but to pay the bribe. Since the government has advertis…
These comments demonstrate how patriotism can affect ones rational and objective thinking. There are understandably benefits and convenience, however the articles focus is not that. It highlights the inherent threats to citizens individual freedoms that has somehow been missed by commentators.
I belong to the third world of the third world. State called Uttar Pradesh. If you consider India as 3rd world, then UP is 3rd world of India. Here are the emotional benefits of Aadhar : My parents don't have to bribe the local gas connections distribution agents. Which means, No need to stay in long queue from 8 In the morning, not to get your cooking cylinder, but to pay the bribe. Since the government has advertis…
Propaganda? Your 30 minute old account sounds like propaganda too. We all know we could reduce crime by putting cameras in people's homes. But we don't do that, because there are risks to those kinds of invasive measures. Aadhar is infrastructure that allows for centralized control of the population. Sometimes that control will be used for good things, like stamping out bribery. But that control can just as easily be…
Aadhar isn't risk-free, but if the majority of the country want it (i.e. if, being informed of the possible consequences, they aren't rioting or impeaching the guy extending it), I feel like that's their choice to make, just like the choice of having police would be.
Also: One of the things about our modern, globalized world, is that any state that's not a military superpower in its own right can't really get away with bootstrapping toward totalitarian autocracy for very long before some concerned state that is a military superpower steps in with a foreign-aided coup. I'm not asserting that that is always a good thing for the world—but, sort of like the "re-insurance" companies backing financial institutions, this arrangement allows smaller states to do "risky" things like using a panopticon to destroy corruption, with a bit of a safety net.
This is ridiculous fearmongering at a scale unseen before, given the enormous amount of corruption in Indian public distribution schemes, Aadhar has potential to be revolutionary in not only reducing corruption but also in providing poor people in India with assistance that they currently lack. Its easy to be a rich and employed in SF and pontificate about how other countries should run their government. Mozilla is e…
Seeing the same, generally weak talking points, angrily defending the Indian government, advocating nationalistic points of view, and repeated over and over - it all reminds me of threads critical of China and Russia.
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Refer, https://thewire.in/24713/aadhaar-identification-simplified-m... The UIDAI has emphasised several times that information related to religion or caste is neither collected nor stored in the Aadhaar database. Applicants and holders are encouraged to look at their Aadhaar to confirm this
Give me a list of 1000 Indian names and I can guess their religion with nearly 95% accuracy. All the points you say sound like you're 'prepared' or 'rehearsed' to say things like this. When the next Gujarat riots happen, trust me just a list of people and their addresses would be sufficient enough to figure out where all the Muslims live.
Did you read through the link I had send you? It's not that hard.
I will ask a simple question, can you detect the caste or religion of a person by knowing their Aadhar number?
OMG Mozilla. No wonder open internet is in such a bad shape when we have you leading it. 1) Aadhaar is not fundamentally different than a National ID which every other country in this world has. India not only lacked it, out birth registrations certificates weren't reliable at all. 2) Yes they do collection Biometrics(BM). But BM are never shared with any other agency/company. And it's strictly codified in law. BM ar…
> Aadhaar is fundamentally different than a National ID which every other country in this world has. Not the United States! Edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_national_identity_card... seems to suggest national IDs are voluntary in 15 countries, nonexistent in 9, and mandatory in 82. One thing that seems possibly significant is that six of the non-mandatory ones include the entirety of the "Anglosphere". htt…
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Thank you for lying so brazenly. Wish could downvote you. > Even worse, the government of India is selling access to this database to private companies to use and combine with other datasets as they wish. This would allow companies to have access to some of your most intimate details and create detailed profiles of you, in ways you can’t necessarily see or control. Liar, the information they get is your name/dob/gend…
I am not Kiran. Aadhar stores a lot more. Are you that stupid ? Usage/Frequency of access by whom and for whom etc (logs) are also data. I take it that you are not in the know of how things actually work, that the problem with Aadhar is using biometrics as a mechanism of validation.
Btw, Aadhaar doesn't store for what you authenticating, or where you are authenticating. That's another lie you are using to fear monger.
But in the end it doesn't matter. 1.3B+ Indians see the benefit of it. And are using it everyday by doing millions of transaction.
Keep on fear mongering. It's not having any effect.
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Social Security Number in the US pre-dates the internet and any concerns people had about privacy. People used to include it on their pre-printed personal checks along with their name and address. SSNs don't even have a checksum to detect typos, nor any convenient mechanism to issue a replacement number if one is compromised. Using the security flaws of the SSN implementation to justify security flaws in any modern i…
Generally I agree, but ... > Social Security Number in the US pre-dates the internet and any concerns people had about privacy. People in the US were concerned about privacy long before the Internet. The 4th Amendment to the US Constitution dates back to the 18th century, for example. In fact, I'd say people are much less concerned about privacy in the Internet era; they put everything online and happily give private…
Or literally get a birth certificate and become a "US citizen".
It's a bit more complicated, but not impossible, to do that in the UK, Belgium and Germany as well. Probably other countries, too.
So you're all crying about India being dystopian while your own ID systems are completely fucked.
I am in the wait and watch camp. So far aadhar has shown promise and benefits. I am also in the "make it compulsory for income tax" group. For privacy, they will get their act together I hope (plug leakages if any). If they don't, it would be foolish for them to think that we won't come after them. I have faith in the current generation. The activation energy maybe high but boy do they protest when they do :)
I don't get this ! What exactly is this linkage solving ? Additionally everyone who advocates this disregards the fact that there are Non-resident Indians who are required to pay taxes but they are not entitled to an Aadhaar card and resident non-Indians who also need to pay taxes who are not required to get an Aadhaar card.
Additionally, how exactly is the deduplication of the PAN database happening ? (ie: who is doing this and what information do they have access to ? eg: is it a private entity who would also benefit from knowing tax income slabs for analytics ?? ...do you really want your service providers insurance/health care/ISP/grocery provider to know the income tax slab you fit in ?)