Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public Beta • Hacker News Board

Re: Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public Beta

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Post by mentalpiracy » Tue, May 16, 2017, 3:34 PM UTC

jimmijazz wrote: post #41

epmaybe wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be fair, "logging in" is just making a username and password. No Email is required. That's really not a huge deal to me, but maybe others disagree.

I believe a large majority of reddit users are lurkers. I browsed the site almost daily for months before I felt the need to create an account so I could start commenting.

Same experience here. I steadfastly avoided Reddit for a while (no real reason, just didn't want to be assed with a new community, then caved and only followed two subreddits for updates on games I was playing.

Eventually the lurking converted me to a registered, commenting user, then finally a submitter as well.

Re: Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public Beta

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Post by codegeek » Tue, May 16, 2017, 3:38 PM UTC

tyingq wrote: post #2

"The app itself is powered by Laravel, Vue.js, Socket.io, and Node" Is there another Laravel other than the php one? Seems odd to roll out with both php and node.js. I don't know why you would need both. Edit: Yes, I see each has it's strengths. But that has to drive a lot of doing the same thing twice, in two languages...they both interact with the same data. I would guess time-to-market is important at launch to re…

I have played around a bit with socket.io and the reason you use Node for it is that socket.io itself comes with a in built node server for backend. So it is much easier and faster to fire up a server to run socket.io using node.

Re: Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public Beta

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Post by mundo » Tue, May 16, 2017, 3:40 PM UTC

imran3740 wrote: post #9

As with voat.co, who's gonna switch to this? Really the only people who switched over to Voat are the people who felt reddit was restricting their rights by posting controversial/hateful material on reddit. So it tends to be full of /pol-like MRAs/extreme right/alt-right users. Voten seems like it's trying to implement a more democratic system, but who will be pushed into switching over to that?

> who's gonna switch to this?

Scott Alexander put it very well, in describing the right-leaning Reddit clone voat.co, and its influx of new users after Reddit purged some subs:

"The moral of the story is: if you’re against witch-hunts, and you promise to found your own little utopian community where witch-hunts will never happen, your new society will end up consisting of approximately three principled civil libertarians and seven zillion witches. It will be a terrible place to live even if witch-hunts are genuinely wrong."

(from http://slatestarcodex.com/2017/05/04/getting-high-on-your-ow...)

Re: Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public Beta

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Post by danso » Tue, May 16, 2017, 3:40 PM UTC

Signed up...of all the recommended programming-related channels to show a first-time user, why (after "opensource") are "vuejs" and "laravel" the channels most spotlighted? As opposed to "programming" or even "javascript"?

On a sidenote, given that Reddit "growth-hacked" its early days by creating fake accounts and the appearance of activity [0], it'd be funny to see Voten use bots to simulate activity based on Reddit's years of activity. A slightly less obvious version of www.reddit.com/r/SubredditSimulator, if you will.

[0] https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/how-reddit-got-hu...

edit: One missing feature: I skipped out of the recommended channels feature after signing up. OK, now I want to sign up for more channels. I've been clicking random buttons and hamburger icons for a minute now and still couldn't tell you how to find the channels I've subscribed to, nevermind all the other existing channels. The "Search" menu appears to be the only place where I can find new channels to add. But there's not a list of channels. I'm just supposed to guess which channels already exist as I type into the autocomplete?

Re: Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public Beta

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Post by rc_kas » Tue, May 16, 2017, 3:50 PM UTC

danso wrote: post #104

Signed up...of all the recommended programming-related channels to show a first-time user, why (after "opensource") are "vuejs" and "laravel" the channels most spotlighted? As opposed to "programming" or even "javascript"? On a sidenote, given that Reddit "growth-hacked" its early days by creating fake accounts and the appearance of activity [0], it'd be funny to see Voten use bots to simulate activity based on Reddi…

Yeah, really hard to find channels. For #politics I had to type it into the URL bar and visit it in order to subscribe.

Re: Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public Beta

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Post by rc_kas » Tue, May 16, 2017, 3:54 PM UTC

KirinDave wrote: post #20

Has anyone signed up? It's very interesting what the first topics are. There is a #conservatism with 8 members already, but you can't make #liberalism, #communism or #leftists. "The_Donald" is "coming soon". (Edit: I must have hit a bug because I tried with a few names and my attempts just didn't do anything, but someone else did it immediately). I wonder if this is like Gab, an attempt to make a more single-issue-po…

https://voten.co/c/progressive

Re: Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public Beta

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Post by aphextron » Tue, May 16, 2017, 3:54 PM UTC

znpy wrote: post #78

Signed up, wandered around, here are my impression. * Nothing fancy, nothing new, nothing impressive. I wouldn't spend time on this site. * The graphical design wasters most of my screen estate. * The side panel overlaps with the content when the window is not in full-screen. * If you register without an email, it is impossible to add one. * Did I mention that 60% of my screen estate is wasted ? * Reddit is open sour…

I agree it's not perfect but we seriously need a reddit alternative. The community there is simply too toxic and I've had to quit it. If there were a HN like community centered around regular news aggregation I would be sooo happy. As is, it's impossible to find a news feed I trust anymore. Google news is infiltrated with fake clickbait nonsense, and I wont even get started on Facebook.