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Re: CockroachDB 1.0

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Post by bogomipz »

anthonylebrun wrote: post #56

Since there's a little side riff about the name going on I thought I'd throw in my 2 cents. Personally I love the name. I think it does a great job of conveying the spirit of the project and provides unlimited pun opportunities. Plus it's memorable, just like a real life roach encounter. Unfortunately I'm sure some people will discriminate against your DB on the basis of name alone. That's ludicrous, but that's our s…

I agree with all your points. That being said MongoDB, Aerospike and Hadoop have all gotten good traction even with their slightly silly names.

Re: CockroachDB 1.0

#102

Post by cocktailpeanuts »

johnwheeler wrote: post #68
_jal wrote: post #57

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This isn't the place to find out, but I'm curious as to the relative ratio of people who have this reaction. I don't, at all - I'm vaguely positive towards the name, but in general don't care what things are called, so long as I can remember it. (Although I still maintain that "Paypal" is the stupidest name ever.) I know people exist who will avoid things simply because they react negatively to the name. How prevalen…

You're going to have a hard time convincing nontechnical managements they need to go with Cockroach instead of Oracle. It's unfortunate the world works that way, but nevertheless, it works that way. It could be the best database in the world. They did a real disservice to themselves by naming it after a bug people typically associate with filth, disease, and germs. Would you use something called TurdDB or AssDB?

it's not at all unfortunate that the world works that way. What's really unfortunate is the founder of this seemingly great database system has decided to not care about how human psychology works.

Here's an Wikipedia excerpt on cockroach:

> They feed on human and pet food and can leave an offensive odor.[60] They can passively transport pathogenic microbes on their body surfaces, particularly in environments such as hospitals.[61][62] Cockroaches are linked with allergic reactions in humans.[63][64] One of the proteins that trigger allergic reactions is tropomyosin.[65] These allergens are also linked with asthma.[66] About 60% of asthma patients in Chicago are also sensitive to cockroach allergens. Studies similar to this have been done globally and all the results are similar. Cockroaches can live for a few days up to a month without food, so just because no cockroaches are visible in a home does not mean they are not there. Approximately 20-48% of homes with no visible sign of cockroaches have detectable cockroach allergens in dust.[67]

Re: CockroachDB 1.0

#103

Post by dec0dedab0de »

nocman wrote: post #85
socmag wrote: post #47

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Instead of just downvoting, how about refuting my claim? I'm seriously curious what is the disagreement. These guys already established atomic clocks are unnecessary. Very interested in which use cases require them.

Am I wrong in remembering that the HN guidelines used to say that you should not downvote someone's comment simply because you disagreed with it? I went looking, and I don't see that in the current guidelines. I could be wrong about it being there before, but I was almost certain that it was at one point. Seems like it used to say that you should only downvote comments that you think don't contribute anything of valu…

I think you're thinking of somewhere else. The up/down votes are a way of agreeing or disagreeing without cluttering up the comments with a bunch of "me toos" or "nuhuhhs"

Re: CockroachDB 1.0

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Post by triangleman »

Name doesn't bother me. It's memorable and I'd definitely consider using it, whether in a startup or enterprise. Better than "Postgres" -- how do you even pronounce that?

Re: CockroachDB 1.0

#105

Post by moe »

socmag wrote: post #78
irfansharif wrote: post #31

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You might find our post[1] on atomic clocks, rather having to do without them, partially interesting. [1]: https://www.cockroachlabs.com/blog/living-without-atomic-clo...

Hey guys, I'm a fellow developer of distributed systems here. First of all I think what you are doing is great. My question is what's the point of clocks at all? The current time is a very subjective matter and I'm sure you know this, the only real time is at the point when the cluster receives the request to commit. Anything else should be considered hearsay. Specifically the time source of any client is totally mea…

My question is what's the point of clocks at all?

I would highly recommend to read the link by irfansharif. It's probably the best primer ever written on the subject.

Re: CockroachDB 1.0

#106

Post by nocman »

dec0dedab0de wrote: post #103
nocman wrote: post #85

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Am I wrong in remembering that the HN guidelines used to say that you should not downvote someone's comment simply because you disagreed with it? I went looking, and I don't see that in the current guidelines. I could be wrong about it being there before, but I was almost certain that it was at one point. Seems like it used to say that you should only downvote comments that you think don't contribute anything of valu…

I think you're thinking of somewhere else. The up/down votes are a way of agreeing or disagreeing without cluttering up the comments with a bunch of "me toos" or "nuhuhhs"

I'm certain that I'm not thinking of somewhere else. I'm completely open to the possibility that I just remember it wrong, but I'm sure that it was HN that I was thinking of, and not another site.

Re: CockroachDB 1.0

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Post by state_machine »

therealmarv wrote: post #82

Does this work theoretically interplanetary (just asking because for science) ?

[cockroachdb employee]

Short answer: no.

Long answer: at their closest earth and mars are about 54m km apart, at the furthest it's over 400, with an average of around 225m km, so theoretical latency is varies between 4 and 24 minutes.

CockroachDB uses synchronous replication via raft, and that latency would cause problems as would some other setting like our window sizes and their interaction with timeouts.

Re: CockroachDB 1.0

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Post by vec »

1_player wrote: post #49
gm wrote: post #42

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The difference is that "mongo" does not have a universally-known meaning. Cockroaches and known throughout the world, and are disgusting throughout the world.

In Italy "mongo" conjures up the slur used for mentally challenged people. I had a friend smirk when I mentioned MongoDB once.

I dunno, a reference to the mentally challenged that is more than a little obscene in some circles seems to really capture the essence of MongoDB.

Re: CockroachDB 1.0

#110

Post by johnwheeler »

cocktailpeanuts wrote: post #102
johnwheeler wrote: post #68

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You're going to have a hard time convincing nontechnical managements they need to go with Cockroach instead of Oracle. It's unfortunate the world works that way, but nevertheless, it works that way. It could be the best database in the world. They did a real disservice to themselves by naming it after a bug people typically associate with filth, disease, and germs. Would you use something called TurdDB or AssDB?

it's not at all unfortunate that the world works that way. What's really unfortunate is the founder of this seemingly great database system has decided to not care about how human psychology works. Here's an Wikipedia excerpt on cockroach: > They feed on human and pet food and can leave an offensive odor.[60] They can passively transport pathogenic microbes on their body surfaces, particularly in environments such as…

This guy has a bad track record for naming software. I just read he is also the creator of The Gnu Image Manipulation Program (GIMP).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spencer_Kimball_(computer_prog...

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