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Walmart's effort to get customers to build up their savings accounts

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Re: Walmart's effort to get customers to build up their savings accounts

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What do you mean by "It is $5/mo for accounts with less than $1000, but you're not going to get better than that at a bank."? Aren't there lots of banks that charge nothing even if you only have <$1000?

There aren't many anymore. Banks mostly eliminated or heavily restricted free checking accounts when overdraft fees got capped. You may be able to find a couple credit unions that do this, but you still have minimum account balances and other hurdles that make it difficult to open an account if you have bad credit and little money (not to mention time or financial savvy).

My credit union requires I have a savings account with $5.00. The overdraft fee is $30. There are no recurring costs outside of that. Both checking and savings accounts earn interest - much less for the checking account - rather than costing me money.

I don't know about the credit check part; I set up with my parents years ago so that may have exempted me as I didn't have any credit history at the time.

Re: Walmart's effort to get customers to build up their savings accounts

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Just read the article. It's $1 for the card and free cash withdrawal at a Wal-Mart banking center. It is $5/mo for accounts with less than $1000, but you're not going to get better than that at a bank. More importantly, they aren't pulling the overdraft scams that banks are. The example right here is that the customer in question pulled $100 in overdraft fees over a $4 purchase, with a traditional bank card.

Skip the bank. Credit Unions are where its at: nation-wide shared branches, fee-free checking, sane overdraft policies, no minimum balances, reasonable interest payments, and in my experience, not a single instance of them blatantly trying to screw customers. I just checked and my CU has a $30 overdraft fee, which can be disabled if you're willing to let things bounce.

Try opening a CU account without credit.

Re: Walmart's effort to get customers to build up their savings accounts

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Not really. It's very expensive to be poor (in the U.S. at least).

It grates for me when I withdraw cash. The most convenient ATM for me charges $3 when I withdraw money. My approach to this is to never pull less than $300, so the fee is 1% or less. But for people who are pulling $20 because that's what they have right now, this is a 15% tax. It's a perfect example of regressive taxation. For me it's a minor inconvenience, for most Americans it's a significant burden.

Get an Ally account. Problem solved. I believe you get reimbursed for up to 10 withdrawals a month or so.

Re: Walmart's effort to get customers to build up their savings accounts

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post #99

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Skip the bank. Credit Unions are where its at: nation-wide shared branches, fee-free checking, sane overdraft policies, no minimum balances, reasonable interest payments, and in my experience, not a single instance of them blatantly trying to screw customers. I just checked and my CU has a $30 overdraft fee, which can be disabled if you're willing to let things bounce.

Try opening a CU account without credit.

No credit, or bad credit?

Re: Walmart's effort to get customers to build up their savings accounts

#105
post #90

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Not really. It's very expensive to be poor (in the U.S. at least).

It grates for me when I withdraw cash. The most convenient ATM for me charges $3 when I withdraw money. My approach to this is to never pull less than $300, so the fee is 1% or less. But for people who are pulling $20 because that's what they have right now, this is a 15% tax. It's a perfect example of regressive taxation. For me it's a minor inconvenience, for most Americans it's a significant burden.

Don't use out-of-network ATMs. Especially privately owned ATMs as they are far more vulnerable to skimming.

Re: Walmart's effort to get customers to build up their savings accounts

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Slighlty offtopic - but why are not debit cards popular in US. A card in which you put money and withdraw/pay untill they ran out. No overdraft/credit/direct debit bullshit to be concerned with.

They are perfect solutions for the poor and underbanked... whatever that means. Small fees, small charges, impossible to rack gazzilion dollars in penalty fees.

Re: Walmart's effort to get customers to build up their savings accounts

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post #99

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Skip the bank. Credit Unions are where its at: nation-wide shared branches, fee-free checking, sane overdraft policies, no minimum balances, reasonable interest payments, and in my experience, not a single instance of them blatantly trying to screw customers. I just checked and my CU has a $30 overdraft fee, which can be disabled if you're willing to let things bounce.

Try opening a CU account without credit.

I didn't have credit when I opened my account with a CU. I don't even think they ran a credit check.

Re: Walmart's effort to get customers to build up their savings accounts

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post #99

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Skip the bank. Credit Unions are where its at: nation-wide shared branches, fee-free checking, sane overdraft policies, no minimum balances, reasonable interest payments, and in my experience, not a single instance of them blatantly trying to screw customers. I just checked and my CU has a $30 overdraft fee, which can be disabled if you're willing to let things bounce.

Try opening a CU account without credit.

I had little (and mostly bad) credit when I opened my first CU account. Wasn't a problem, at all.

It might, OTOH, be hard with the same kind of bad account history that will stop you from being able to open a regular bank account, but that's different from regular no credit or bad credit.

Re: Walmart's effort to get customers to build up their savings accounts

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Here are my various no-fee checking accounts: * http://content.schwab.com/web/retail/public/get-started/chec... - amazing checking account, reimburses all ATM fees * https://www.capitalone.com/bank/360checking-guide/ * https://www.aspiration.com/summit/ I do have a few other ones but they're based on relationship banking. All of the above have no fee and no minimum.

Step 2 in this analysis: Would you be able to get any of those accounts with a low credit score? I'm pretty sure when I opened my Schwab checking account they ran a credit check.

Schwab runs a credit check for that account because they also open a brokerage account for you that allows you some ability to float funds.

Re: Walmart's effort to get customers to build up their savings accounts

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post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not really. It's very expensive to be poor (in the U.S. at least).

It grates for me when I withdraw cash. The most convenient ATM for me charges $3 when I withdraw money. My approach to this is to never pull less than $300, so the fee is 1% or less. But for people who are pulling $20 because that's what they have right now, this is a 15% tax. It's a perfect example of regressive taxation. For me it's a minor inconvenience, for most Americans it's a significant burden.

If you use your debit card to pay for groceries, you can get $40-60 cash (or more) each time without paying a fee.
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