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Re: An off-grid social network

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post #82

No, you're not. If you were that would mean you would be interested. If you were interested you would have more to say. You're just trying to imply that I must suggest an alternative before commenting on the poor state of "social networks".

"I'm all ears" is simply a common idiom for asking you to suggest alternatives. Not sure why that upsets you?

Because it is rude and a lie. Also, your last phrase doesn't make any sense.

Re: An off-grid social network

#102
post #85
post #37

I've been thinking about this very thing the past few days! Forgive the rambling, this is the first time I've written any of this down... My idea is to use email as a transport for 'social attachments' that would be read using a custom mail client (it remains to be seen if it should be your regular email client or have it be just your 'social mail' client. But... if using another client as regular email, users would…

email is so complicated. There are probably 3 people in the world who know how to properly run an email server.

Who needs to run a mail server? It's a (specialized) mail client that uses your existing email account as storage and transport.

Re: An off-grid social network

#104
post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is what blogging was like, no? Pingbacks created a conversation among posts.

Blogging is about the same as posting in your own "feed" on any social network. See, for example, the indiewebcamp[1] people, who are against "silos", as they call Facebook et al., but are recreating their same functionalities with personal blogs and a new version of Pingbacks called "webmentions". [1]: https://indieweb.org/

But the pingback was more about making your blog post a comment on someone's post. So it was creating a conversation. I could read a post, respond to it on my blog and ping back to the original. That way my feed was a mix of the discussions I'm having with others as well as my own stuff. I suppose if you take away the "feed" element, you could call web forums and Usenet "social networking".

Re: An off-grid social network

#105
post #25

The storage requirements are tremendous, though, right? If I want to have access to everything that's been shared with me, I have to store it all. In the case of images, the storage burden can get large quickly.

Does Scuttlebutt intend to store every post forever? Or could posts 'expire' and get deleted, like on Usenet? It would be on you to save the content you wanted to have long term. Somebody could always take on the burden of capturing an archive of the whole thing in perpetuity and provide web access to it, like the archive.org does for usenet.

Re: An off-grid social network

#107
post #69
post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And then your laptop gets stolen and everything's gone.

If I understand scuttlebut correctly, your stuff is broadcasted to whoever it might concern and the pubs. If you still have your private key, you should still be able to access whatever is in the ether, right ? You somehow become the recipient of your own messages. Only the thief will also have access to your private key, so the account can be considered compromised.

so, data breach means all your private data is irrevocably publicized.

What percentage of users do you think would be affected by such cases? If it's something over 0.001%, it's a huge problem for a social network.

Sites like Coinbase and Github exist because they re-centralize distributed systems — users don't trust themselves to host their own data securely.

Alternately, if this isn't a problem, why don't users simply host all their own infrastructure for existing tech problems today ?

I'm sure someone capable of living in the Mojave Desert is capable of hosting their own infrastructure - is this network simply for those people, or is it also for journalists, trans people, and HR professionals?

Re: An off-grid social network

#108
post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is what blogging was like, no? Pingbacks created a conversation among posts.

Blogging is about the same as posting in your own "feed" on any social network. See, for example, the indiewebcamp[1] people, who are against "silos", as they call Facebook et al., but are recreating their same functionalities with personal blogs and a new version of Pingbacks called "webmentions". [1]: https://indieweb.org/

It doesn't have to be. I have my blog using Pelican, no comments, no pingbacks, nothing. I write about stuff that interests me because I feel to. If someone finds one of my articles and they find it interesting, good for them. If they don't, good for them too.

Re: An off-grid social network

#110

This excites me. I'm probably naive, but I always imagine that one day I'll retire and spend my days trying to work on an open source mesh network (or something similar). I want future generations to live in a world where 'the internet' isn't a thing that authorities can grant/deny. A headless social network is a promising omen of a headless internet.

> I want future generations to live in a world where 'the internet' isn't a thing that authorities can grant/deny.

_THIS_ is very much the spirit of SSB. :)

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