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Airbnb “Bribes” Host with Cash Under NDA After Partiers Destroy Apartment

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#101
post #83

I find it shocking that someone thought it was a good idea to list a flat on airbnb that they're only renting themselves. Largely in England subletting is not allowed under the terms of rental agreements.

But doesn't Airbnb want you to do just that? Sublease even if it's against the law?

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#102
post #72
post #29

Bribes are generally illegal. This should be "compensates," not "bribes." "Bribes" is just hyperbole. This is standard practice for a lot of businesses in a similar space.

We put quotes around that word in the title. I'll add an explanation here in a bit. Edit: ok, here's an explanation. We put quotes around "bribes" because that's the tiniest intervention I can think of that still addresses your concern. Why so tiny? That takes a while to explain, so read on if you want to understand how we approach this. The title breaks the HN guidelines ( https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines…

At least you're honest about your role in the departure of the Elves from Middle Earth.

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#103
post #65
post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hey, if some chooses to live next to a hotel then that's there choice. If a unlicensed hotel opens next to them (i.e. an airbnb rental) then they have been impinged on.

That's a slippery slope; if my neighbors plant tulips and I HATE tulips, I don't get to sue for damages, even if the tulips weren't there when I moved in.

Legally, that isn't even remotely a slippery slope. There is a vast difference between a decorative object located solely within one's property which has no effect on neighboring properties, and an for-profit unlicensed/illegal activity which affects the neighbor's safety and use of their abode.

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#104

www.airbnbhell.com Lots of crazy stories! Their business model seems to rely on people willing to roll the dice on their safety and security to save (or earn) a few bucks! It will undoubtedly survive this little blip of negative publicity, but people really need to be wary of this organization's complete lack of customer service (when things go bad).

A few years ago I was going to do exactly what the guy in the article did, was going to put my own place on Airbnb when I was away, never did in the end, but it was something I was always interested in doing, I remember reading AirBnb's host insurance policy and they seemed very fair if something bad had happened to my place, but if they don't payout, it's as good as useless. So after reading this, not a chance I'll ever list. (maybe in a few years if I hear its turned around, maybe)

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#105
post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. "which came to a total cost of around £6,400 (about $8,000)" (from TFA). I'm arguing more for $50k+. The GBP/USD difference isn't significant. (For anything less than $10k or so, as long as it was at all substantiated, AirBNB should just pay -- at worst, ban the host. The PR hit from this article is probably $500k already?)

> I'm arguing more for $50k+. [...] The PR hit from this article is probably $500k already? But if they've done this 12+ times, and "saved" ~$42k each time, then they're still ahead. It wouldn't surprise me.

Getting banned from London would be a bigger hit than $500k savings.

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#106
post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'm not sure what you're alluding to I have no opinion on the matter, but clearly the OP is alluding to the fact that HN will bury negative stories about their investments.

That first tweet is about Uber. Uber is not a YC investment. It's also one of the most heavily discussed topics on HN, so it's hard to understand what's being claimed there. The idea that HN "buries stories about [YC] investments" is one some people assume must be true—as you did, for example, in your use of the word 'fact' above. But the truth is the opposite. When stories are negative about YC or YC-funded companie…

This might be a new policy now that you're the head moderator, but the reason this complaint pops up every time there's a negative post about a YC company is because for several years there was a noticeable, nearly 100% correlation between "negative post about a YC company" and "gone from the front page within 3 hours despite dozens or even hundreds of upvotes."

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#107
post #88

This email exchange reads like something from Black Mirror. https://nyoobserver.files.wordpress.com/2017/03/emailexchang... It's amazing he didn't go and firebomb AirBnB. This kind of communication would leave me incandescent with rage.

Man, that is bad; totally agree with you DanBC. The third time the AirBnB rep asked for details of the blinds I was gob-smacked that I could have noticed it twice already on a brief scan and they apparently didn't see it - or perhaps it was just a delaying tactic to force the financial situation to become more grave for their client, like you say true Black Mirror stuff.

Then at the end they try to low-ball him on what realistically was probably a tenth of what he seemed to have due (by that stage), giving him a short time-limit - what was it, 24 hours? - to click a button to accept the minimal offer or to "agree" to nothing.

That sort of vile behaviour deserves a company to be sued to within a penny of it's existence IMO.

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#108
post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That first tweet is about Uber. Uber is not a YC investment. It's also one of the most heavily discussed topics on HN, so it's hard to understand what's being claimed there. The idea that HN "buries stories about [YC] investments" is one some people assume must be true—as you did, for example, in your use of the word 'fact' above. But the truth is the opposite. When stories are negative about YC or YC-funded companie…

This might be a new policy now that you're the head moderator, but the reason this complaint pops up every time there's a negative post about a YC company is because for several years there was a noticeable, nearly 100% correlation between "negative post about a YC company" and "gone from the front page within 3 hours despite dozens or even hundreds of upvotes."

It isn't a new policy; as I've posted elsewhere in the thread, "moderate HN less, not more, when YC or a YC startup is involved" is literally the first thing pg taught me about how to moderate HN. In fact he blurted it at me before I even had a chance to grab a chair.

I doubt these complaints pop up because of years ago, though. People just assume that's how it works whether it does that way or not, and confirmation bias does the rest, i.e. we notice the data points that match our assumptions much more than ones that don't. Plus it's fun to trade those with others who share the same view.

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#109
post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That first tweet is about Uber. Uber is not a YC investment. It's also one of the most heavily discussed topics on HN, so it's hard to understand what's being claimed there. The idea that HN "buries stories about [YC] investments" is one some people assume must be true—as you did, for example, in your use of the word 'fact' above. But the truth is the opposite. When stories are negative about YC or YC-funded companie…

This might be a new policy now that you're the head moderator, but the reason this complaint pops up every time there's a negative post about a YC company is because for several years there was a noticeable, nearly 100% correlation between "negative post about a YC company" and "gone from the front page within 3 hours despite dozens or even hundreds of upvotes."

Dan has been the head moderator for years, and was a moderator long before it was public that he was. PG was more capricious with moderation than Dan was, but when Dan says Paul Graham believed not showing favoritism to YC was a priority of his, I believe him.

Say what you want about anybody else at YC, but Dan is one of the most trustworthy people in show business. If he says a story didn't get suppressed by the mods, bank on that.

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#110
post #72
post #29

Bribes are generally illegal. This should be "compensates," not "bribes." "Bribes" is just hyperbole. This is standard practice for a lot of businesses in a similar space.

We put quotes around that word in the title. I'll add an explanation here in a bit. Edit: ok, here's an explanation. We put quotes around "bribes" because that's the tiniest intervention I can think of that still addresses your concern. Why so tiny? That takes a while to explain, so read on if you want to understand how we approach this. The title breaks the HN guidelines ( https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines…

FWIW (and I realize what it's W is minimal), despite the shade I sometimes throw re: certain policies on HN, I think you guys do an excellent job of threading the needle with regards to YC-related companies.
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