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Why doesn’t the clock in the taskbar display seconds? (2003)

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Re: Why doesn’t the clock in the taskbar display seconds? (2003)

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I agree with you. Actually I think that at this stage, the browser should be viewed as a sandbox that can fetch and execute arbitrary binaries; then we can finally get past all the hacks that Web tech (js/dom/html/css/templates) is using to approximate that and actually build it for that express purpose, which should lead to better security (since we aren't pretending about what's happening -- it's untrusted code exe…

I don't think the developers of any of the main browser's JS engines pretend they're not going to be executing hostile code. In fact I struggle to think of better embeddable software sandboxes than V8, SpiderMonkey, etc., especially now that they support WebAssembly.

Good point. These are smart people developing these sandboxes - they know what they're getting themselves, and their users, in for.

Re: Why doesn’t the clock in the taskbar display seconds? (2003)

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You'll probably get down-voted for your choice of language, but I agree. I actually feel what's going to happen is the JS community will start implementing WebASM and other very low-level mechanism to improve the speed of slow software components and, given enough time, will eventually just have entire binary applications being delivered through the browser (automatically installed, without asking you.) We'll go from…

I agree with you. Actually I think that at this stage, the browser should be viewed as a sandbox that can fetch and execute arbitrary binaries; then we can finally get past all the hacks that Web tech (js/dom/html/css/templates) is using to approximate that and actually build it for that express purpose, which should lead to better security (since we aren't pretending about what's happening -- it's untrusted code exe…

Yep.

We need to just skip all this JS and other web standards nonsense and skip straight to the writing Golang, Rust, C, whatever, that is delivered (as a binary) through the browser and into a nice little sandbox that exposes system level APIs (notification, temp file storage - everything we can already kinda do in JA now) so we can get on with a faster, better web.

(Kind of makes me think we have this now: Docker/containers. Hmm... hit an HTTPS endpoint and a Docker container is downloaded and the application is launched...)

Re: Why doesn’t the clock in the taskbar display seconds? (2003)

#105

I worked on a visual programming language in late 80s. It would compile it's programs but the compiler was really slow, took minutes for small programs. We worked on optimizing it but couldn't find much to optimize. Then the founder took out the code that updated the progress bar as it compiled and compiles finished 10x faster. This was on Mac Plus.

Software still does this today. For example, a large part of https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=721822 is down to progress bar rendering making the loading of the saved-data file be much slower. :( See https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=721822#c32 for the most recent data there...

Re: Why doesn’t the clock in the taskbar display seconds? (2003)

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Neither Chrome or Firefox support HLS on the desktop despite providing support on mobile (since Android 3.0 I believe). They have categorically refused to add desktop support, if you have any complaints I would take it up with them.

Why would they support a closed, proprietary format when there exist better, open ones?

What is a better one? A patent pool has formed around DASH and you need to buy a license to use it:

http://www.mpegla.com/main/programs/MPEG-DASH/Pages/Intro.as...

Re: Why doesn’t the clock in the taskbar display seconds? (2003)

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post #28

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Can't watch on either Chrome or Firefox. Apple are real gits.

Neither Chrome or Firefox support HLS on the desktop despite providing support on mobile (since Android 3.0 I believe). They have categorically refused to add desktop support, if you have any complaints I would take it up with them.

> Neither Chrome or Firefox support HLS on the desktop

Both work well with JavaScript based implementations of HLS, such as VideoJS's HLS plugin:

http://videojs.github.io/videojs-contrib-hls/

Re: Why doesn’t the clock in the taskbar display seconds? (2003)

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It might not be the memory concern it once was, but today it might very well be a power concern. Modern laptop display pipelines can save power if they don't have to redraw any of the screen: constantly updating status bar animations break that.[1] 1: https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2013/712/ (I think the relatively short graphics section mentions this. Can't seem to find the talk that goes into it in mor…

Can't watch on either Chrome or Firefox. Apple are real gits.

You can at least download the video in HD or SD under the "Resources" section on the page. They also have slides from the talk.

Re: Why doesn’t the clock in the taskbar display seconds? (2003)

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post #69

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> why would you want to have seconds on the clock? * Timing things, such as software execution * Starting a phone interview on time * Timing a trade just before the market closes

> Starting a phone interview on time Down to the second?

Not a second, but a minute is too coarse
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