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Re: Facts about migration and crime in Sweden

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Post by Shalle135 »

polack wrote: post #70
otalp wrote: post #23

According to the official statistics on The Swedish Crime Survey, the sexual violence rate in Sweden remained about the same between 2005 and 2014. The refugee crisis began around 2014, and since then, the rates for sexual violence went down in 2015[1] something you never see mentioned on certain parts of the internet. 2016 saw an increase in crimes, but still less than pre-immigration levels in 2014. Also the Swedis…

It's totally irrelevant that the crimes has decreased. The point is that a majority of all violence and sexual crimes is performed by immigrants (as confirmed by Sweden's most famous crime professor GW a couple of days ago). Why are you so afraid to see that immigrants are over represented in this category of crimes?

Good to know though is what GW is famous for. Being an infamous alcoholic.

Re: Facts about migration and crime in Sweden

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Post by literallycancer »

akerro wrote: post #39
trendia wrote: post #11

The way this is worded is weird: Claim: "In Sweden there are a number of 'no-go zones' where criminality and gangs have taken over and where the emergency services do not dare to go." Facts: No. In a report published in February 2016, the Swedish Police Authority identified 53 residential areas around the country that have become increasingly marred by crime, social unrest and insecurity. These places have been incor…

VICE made a pretty good material about no-go zones in Sweden and anti-racist groups that demolish your car, house, get you fired from job for liking wrong thing on Facebook.

How about linking the material?

>and anti-racist groups that demolish your car, house, get you fired from job for liking wrong thing on Facebook.

Yea. It's your prerogative to hold controversial opinions. But you certainly don't have any right to be publicly racist and expect no retaliation.

To clarify, I meant legal retaliation using legal means like firing the racist person from their job. Burning down their car is of course, illegal.

Re: Facts about migration and crime in Sweden

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Post by johansch »

booleandilemma wrote: post #65

Relevant WSJ article: Trump Is Right: Sweden’s Embrace of Refugees Isn’t Working https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-is-right-swedens-embrace-...

And:

http://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/09/how-sweden-became-an-exam...

"How Sweden became an example of how not to handle immigration"

By Tove Lifvendahl, political editor-in-chief at Svenska Dagbladet.

(She gets away with saying these things since she is adopted from Korea.)

Re: Facts about migration and crime in Sweden

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Post by barking »

pavlov wrote: post #63
barking wrote: post #17

It's a bit simplistic to speak only about migrants. In the case of Islamic terrorism, I've heard it commented that recruits come from the children of migrants rather than the migrants themselves. This certainly seemed to borne out by the London 7/7 bombers and the Charlie Hebdo attackers to name two cases. Prison populations in western countries also seem to have disproportionate numbers of ethnic minorities. I also…

... authorities commonly seem to want to accentuate the positive and sweep any negativity under the rug. Like the Trump administration, and the Hungarian government... No, wait, they do the exact opposite. I guess all authorities are not the same after all? And it's not just black and white either. Governments around the world consist of people with incredibly different backgrounds and political agendas. There is no…

Ok, I spent 10 minutes googling.

"Police in Ontario were forbidden to compile race-based crime statistics." https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2015/08/17/a-thorny-history...

"Charlie Hebdo attackers: born, raised and radicalised in Paris" https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/12/-sp-charlie-he...

"The men responsible for the carnage [7/7 attacks] all grew up in Britain" http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/77-bombings-l...

"According to the Young review, the disproportionate representation of young black and Muslim prisoners in the UK is now greater than that in the US." https://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/jun/24/rise-proport...

Re: Facts about migration and crime in Sweden

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Post by ptaipale »

threeseed wrote: post #36
arethuza wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I remember hearing something similar from a policeman here in Scotland ~30 years ago - to arrest someone who they expected to be violent from a high-rise in a rougher area would need a remarkable number of people involved as they didn't want to let anyone be out of sight of anyone else so that meant someone standing on each landing on the stairs. And that's nothing to do with immigrants just us Scots and our unfortun…

There are areas like this in most countries. And it's most often linked to poverty, youth unemployment, the stability of the family home and absence of good role models. But instead people like to blame immigrants because it's easier. It's always that faceless person over there who is responsible for your problems.

> There are areas like this in most countries.

But for quite many decades, there didn't use to be areas like that in Sweden.

Re: Facts about migration and crime in Sweden

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Post by koonsolo »

peteretep wrote: post #44
koonsolo wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same as in Belgium then. They even throw stones at fire-fighters when they are doing their job. So nothing to worry about, right? And I don't know if it is the same in Sweden, but you are not really politically allowed to say what kind of people live in those neighborhoods. So again, nothing to worry about.

> not really politically > allowed to say what kind > of people live in those > neighborhoods Same answer it's been for the last 500 years? Poor people with rampant underemployment? Wonder what America would be like today if they'd cleared out all Italian and Irish immigrants 100 years ago because of immigrant ghettos?

Go ask the Native Americans what they think about all those immigrants.

Re: Facts about migration and crime in Sweden

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

onion2k wrote: post #27
koonsolo wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same as in Belgium then. They even throw stones at fire-fighters when they are doing their job. So nothing to worry about, right? And I don't know if it is the same in Sweden, but you are not really politically allowed to say what kind of people live in those neighborhoods. So again, nothing to worry about.

Same as in Belgium then. They even throw stones at fire-fighters when they are doing their job. So nothing to worry about, right? I wouldn't be surprised if every country has areas people claim are like that. England: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3647355/Firefighters... Scotland: http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/bonfire-nigh... Wales: http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/youths-attac…

Reports of youths stoning firemen are in the newspaper every couple of months in my UK city. Firemen report it as truth too, it has been specifically mentioned when I've visited fire stations (Scout visits).

The youths are never charged from what I can tell, the police just disperse them. I assume this means the incidents don't go in to crime statistics.

That's one way of "bringing down violent crime", don't arrest the perps; that may be over-cynical.

Re: Facts about migration and crime in Sweden

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Post by Entalpi »

oligopoly wrote: post #97
otalp wrote: post #23

According to the official statistics on The Swedish Crime Survey, the sexual violence rate in Sweden remained about the same between 2005 and 2014. The refugee crisis began around 2014, and since then, the rates for sexual violence went down in 2015[1] something you never see mentioned on certain parts of the internet. 2016 saw an increase in crimes, but still less than pre-immigration levels in 2014. Also the Swedis…

Most of the crimes in Sweden is done by immigrants. Sweden is the rape capital of Europe. It's creepy to see this kind of behaviour condoned and labeled as nothing. Sweden: Rape Capital of the West https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/5195/sweden-rape Everything is factual in that statement but seems to burst some peoples bubble.

This my friends is propaganda.
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