When I saw HN first time i thought the same about it (without janky). Sometimes it's all about the content and user base, look at 4chan also.
Related thread from the other day: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13638172
Craigslist Is Ugly, Janky, Old School, and Unbeatable
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#102Earlier quoted context omitted.
>If Craigslist decided to modernize today I misread this as "decided to monetize today" and interpreted an IPO. Has Craigslist ever thought about this? Any thoughts?
Craigslist has nearly $300 million in profit and only around 30 employees. Why on earth would they ever want to go public?
Using EBay's P/E ratio of 21x, Craigslist owners have 2 options:
1. $300MM in profit each year, which has risk of going up or down.
2. Sell company for $6.3 billion ($300 x 21) and walk.
Note: I don't have time to investigate why Bloomberg is telling me EBay PE ratio is 21, vs Google Finance is 5x.
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#103Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'd really like to know how to deal with users input, forms and other stuff without JS. Every tutorial we see today is like "throw tons of JS to this problem and it shall work".
Where is your user input going in the end? If it's going to a server, I sure hope you're validating it there. Anything you do on the client side via JavaScript can be bypassed by the end user and provides no guarantees about the input you receive.
Same with HTML. Need validation server side no matter what.
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#104Am I the only one who doesn't think Craigslist is "Ugly or Janky"? It's one of the only places left on the web where I can go and not be bombarded by ads, pop ups, crazy amount of JavaScript and slow loading. It just works and is intuitive to use. The only major thing I feel is missing is the ability to search through multiple locations at the same time.
But if they just wrote an SPA and overrode the back button behavior and displayed a little spinner icon while html was loaded via json, your experience would be so much better.
Founder: The paradigm has shifted. 5kb HTML pages are no longer disruptive enough, we need more javascript for a-
VC: Shut up and light this bag of cash on fire. Focus on number of non-paying users and make sure it's big enough so I can introduce you to more people with bigger pile of cash to light on fire.
Craigslist Post: We are hiring front-end React.js developers with 10+ year experience.
Re: Craigslist Is Ugly, Janky, Old School, and Unbeatable
#105Am I the only one who doesn't think Craigslist is "Ugly or Janky"? It's one of the only places left on the web where I can go and not be bombarded by ads, pop ups, crazy amount of JavaScript and slow loading. It just works and is intuitive to use. The only major thing I feel is missing is the ability to search through multiple locations at the same time.
Search multiple Craigslist locations: http://www.searchtempest.com/
there are no craigslist results there. probably went away with 3taps
Re: Craigslist Is Ugly, Janky, Old School, and Unbeatable
#106Am I the only one who doesn't think Craigslist is "Ugly or Janky"? It's one of the only places left on the web where I can go and not be bombarded by ads, pop ups, crazy amount of JavaScript and slow loading. It just works and is intuitive to use. The only major thing I feel is missing is the ability to search through multiple locations at the same time.
you can search multiple locations on craigslist right now. in the left hand bar click "include nearby areas". there is also a miles from zip search option.
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#107Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'd really like to know how to deal with users input, forms and other stuff without JS. Every tutorial we see today is like "throw tons of JS to this problem and it shall work".
Are you being facetious? Otherwise I feel old. When I learned HTML4 forms and CGI, javascript was solely the domain of input validation if it was available. Okay I definitely feel old.
lol sorry, but I was serious :P
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#108I actually think that Craigslist will come to see tough competition from Facebook Marketplace. Facebook has the existing user base to get a network effect, has a much better UI, notifications, and solves for the worry of meeting someone who is a complete unknown. Will be interesting to see if Facebook chips away at the Craigslist user-base over the next few years.
I think the greater risk for Craigslist is that categories that have standardize products will lose to niche markets. Maybe FB could implement a social aspect to the marketplace. For example, listing for cars for car people to comment on.
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#109The main problem Craigslist still has is that it does not have an official mobile app which is actually why I started using a competitors service. It's a lot easier on a phone to endlessly scroll through items via an app then it is to go to the CL website. CL is fine when I'm sitting down in front of a computer but if I'm on the bus I want to just be able to use my thumb to quickly flip through.
Who needs a mobile app, with its inherent privacy exposures, for content that renders just fine on mobile browsers?
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#110Somehow this historical wikipedia quote about profits relationship to beauty and trendiness smells appropriate: "The Roman historian Suetonius reports that when Vespasian's son Titus complained about the disgusting nature of the tax, his father held up a gold coin and asked whether he felt offended by its smell (sciscitans num odore offenderetur). When Titus said "No", Vespasian replied, "Yet it comes from urine" (At…
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