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High-Memory Instances and $5 Linodes

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Re: High-Memory Instances and $5 Linodes

#101

Post by mattbettinson »

deftnerd wrote: post #78
pjungwir wrote: post #25

Linode is my top choice for hosting, but lately I've been tinkering on a project that needs a lot of disk, and it's hard to find good options there. On AWS every dimension scales independently, but with Linode I can't buy disk without buying CPU and RAM too. When I had a similar need a few years ago, I wound up renting a dedicated server, where even the cheapest came with 2TB or so. I'd love to just stick with Linode…

Delimiter has a clever solution for $10 a month. They call it Slot Hosting. You ship them a disk and they'll host it and attach it as additional storage on a VPS. https://www.delimiter.com/slot-hosting/ I use it to host an 8tb drive that I then attach to a dedicated server I rent for $20 a month. $30 a month and I have a server that I use for Plex (16 cores, 3.2ghz, 32 gigs of memory, and 10tb of total storage).

Holy, why do you need that computing power for streaming shows/movies?

Re: High-Memory Instances and $5 Linodes

#102

Post by karussell »

00deadbeef wrote: post #44
flaviuspopan wrote: post #18

I love seeing cloud providers offering better deals, the more the merrier! However, I still have yet to find a better deal than the one Scaleway offers. ~$3/mo for a dual-core, 2GB RAM, 50GB SSD host. They also support terraform, rancher, swarm, etc. Been using them for a few months and haven't had a single complaint.

Aren't they slow Atom C2750 cores though?

They have also X86 alternatives since 2016 (and a third offering since a few weeks)

Re: High-Memory Instances and $5 Linodes

#103

Post by karussell »

duncanawoods wrote: post #85
mike-cardwell wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use OVH. Their support is horrendous though. For example, I put in a support request at mid-day this Saturday to ask if their geo-ip feature where you can select which country you want an additional IP to appear to be from, meant that the IP address actually terminated in that country. They didn't get back to me until this morning (3 days later), and the response was a bit vague. I bought some new IPs 4 hours ago f…

Meh, doesn't sound too bad to me. Its not like your machine has failed and they are not responding. You use OVH/Hetzner with the understanding that the great prices come from minimal support and the hardware will be used or desktop class. Hetzner support is strictly standard office hours. If you want instant responses, you can pay 10x at another provider but you chose not to.

That is only partly true. First of all OVH has different offerings (and I expect that I can get a new cloud server any time?) and Hetzner replied instantly to us when we had a server down on a Saturday. You can even call them by phone. Hetzner is no cloud and mp fluff and feels a bit aged, but the support is not bad and for normal questions within hours on working days. PS: I do not work for them ;)

Re: High-Memory Instances and $5 Linodes

#104

Post by nacs »

Hello71 wrote: post #67
brettfarrow wrote: post #47

I used to use Linode for some projects, and really appreciated their speed and server quality, which seemed better than Digital Ocean at the time. But after using them for 12-18 months, and losing several days of data due to the 2015 DDoS, and reading about more and more security issues, I switched back to DO and haven't looked back. The performance differences aren't noticeable to me, and I'd rather have my hosting…

DO isn't any better, just hasn't been targeted by any serious attackers yet. until very recently, they didn't allow using a custom kernel (except via kexec hackaround) and were quite slow updating their kernel for security patches. they repeatedly gave random dates for implementation, then repeatedly pushed them back, then eventually just ignored users on this issue for years . their images were also poorly sanitized…

> just hasn't been targeted by any serious attackers yet.

Source? Just because they haven't announced any successful security breaches, doesn't mean they haven't been seriously targeted.

In fact, considering the amount of times my random dedicated server instance (not hosted at DO) gets hit with random attacks, I'm sure a large provider like DO has had numerous serious, targeted attacks against their network/servers/control panel/etc.

Re: High-Memory Instances and $5 Linodes

#105

Post by ryanlol »

Hello71 wrote: post #67
brettfarrow wrote: post #47

I used to use Linode for some projects, and really appreciated their speed and server quality, which seemed better than Digital Ocean at the time. But after using them for 12-18 months, and losing several days of data due to the 2015 DDoS, and reading about more and more security issues, I switched back to DO and haven't looked back. The performance differences aren't noticeable to me, and I'd rather have my hosting…

DO isn't any better, just hasn't been targeted by any serious attackers yet. until very recently, they didn't allow using a custom kernel (except via kexec hackaround) and were quite slow updating their kernel for security patches. they repeatedly gave random dates for implementation, then repeatedly pushed them back, then eventually just ignored users on this issue for years . their images were also poorly sanitized…

>DO isn't any better, just hasn't been targeted by any serious attackers yet.

As the official authority on serious attackers I can confirm that his is in fact not true.

Re: High-Memory Instances and $5 Linodes

#106

Post by mwpmaybe »

ben_bai wrote: post #81
msbarnett wrote: post #16

Digital Ocean really needs to cut their prices at this point. There's no compelling reason to pay them 50% more for the same thing.

I don't get the whole VPS thing anyway. 5$ for playing around is great but anything that costs more is just not worth it. 60$/month for 16GB, 1CPU, 20GB disk for VPS... in comparison a root server with real remote console access, 16GB, 4 core AMD, 4TB disks, unlimited traffic costs me 30EUR/month (30$/month). Or for 60EUR/month (60$) I could get a root server with 64GB Ram, 2x500GB SSD, i7-6700, 30TB traffic.

What is your definition of a "root server" and where do you rent them? Do you mean a dedicated server? I've checked a few providers and none of them come close the costs/benefits you're listing. OVH's EG-16 (4c/8t, 16G, 2x4T) is $79/mo. 1-and-1's L4i (4c/4t, 12G, 2x1T) is $80/mo.

Re: High-Memory Instances and $5 Linodes

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Post by mwpmaybe »

00deadbeef wrote: post #93
ben_bai wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't get the whole VPS thing anyway. 5$ for playing around is great but anything that costs more is just not worth it. 60$/month for 16GB, 1CPU, 20GB disk for VPS... in comparison a root server with real remote console access, 16GB, 4 core AMD, 4TB disks, unlimited traffic costs me 30EUR/month (30$/month). Or for 60EUR/month (60$) I could get a root server with 64GB Ram, 2x500GB SSD, i7-6700, 30TB traffic.

You pay for the scalability. Your 4 core AMD is always a 4 core AMD unless you migrate to a new server. Your 1 core Linode can become a 20 core Linode in a few minutes, for just a few hours while you need the capacity, and then go back to being a cheap 1 core Linode.

And one server will only ever be one server. For many deployments it makes more sense to have several smaller nodes distributed between different geographical areas than one big node in one datacenter. And/or multiple nodes in a a single datacenter so you can perform rolling upgrades.

Re: High-Memory Instances and $5 Linodes

#108

Post by aseipp »

BrianT wrote: post #98
deftnerd wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Delimiter has a clever solution for $10 a month. They call it Slot Hosting. You ship them a disk and they'll host it and attach it as additional storage on a VPS. https://www.delimiter.com/slot-hosting/ I use it to host an 8tb drive that I then attach to a dedicated server I rent for $20 a month. $30 a month and I have a server that I use for Plex (16 cores, 3.2ghz, 32 gigs of memory, and 10tb of total storage).

[Disclosure - I work at Delimiter] Thanks for the recommendation, slot hosting is a good solution if you need to get a disk online with a VPS attached to it. We've had a lot of people asking how you did this so just to explain: Slot hosting $120/year ($10/month) - that gives you one 3.5" or 2.5" slot to send your disk in. You can aggregate up multiple slots and aggregate the VPS resources into one large VM. This is g…

Can I buy slots and use them from your Cloud Resource Pools, (e.g. for $10/mo on top of the $6/mo for the Pool)? That's an interesting configuration...

Re: High-Memory Instances and $5 Linodes

#109

Post by mwpmaybe »

msbarnett wrote: post #92
ben_bai wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't get the whole VPS thing anyway. 5$ for playing around is great but anything that costs more is just not worth it. 60$/month for 16GB, 1CPU, 20GB disk for VPS... in comparison a root server with real remote console access, 16GB, 4 core AMD, 4TB disks, unlimited traffic costs me 30EUR/month (30$/month). Or for 60EUR/month (60$) I could get a root server with 64GB Ram, 2x500GB SSD, i7-6700, 30TB traffic.

I've pointed this out to people on numerous occasions, and the push-back I always get is concerns about timely provisioning if they ever need more capacity and/or new servers in case of catastrophe. OVH et al can get you servers quickly if they have them "in stock", but supply fluctuates wildly, especially on the cheaper end.

Just being able to programmatically provision a server at a moment's notice—even in normal day-to-day (i.e. non-catastrophic) situations—is a critical tool in my toolbelt.

You can take a snapshot of a VM, you can move it to a different host, you can spin up a new instance to test a major upgrade, you can clone a cluster for a few hours of testing, you can scale up and down...

Re: High-Memory Instances and $5 Linodes

#110

Post by msbarnett »

mwpmaybe wrote: post #106
ben_bai wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't get the whole VPS thing anyway. 5$ for playing around is great but anything that costs more is just not worth it. 60$/month for 16GB, 1CPU, 20GB disk for VPS... in comparison a root server with real remote console access, 16GB, 4 core AMD, 4TB disks, unlimited traffic costs me 30EUR/month (30$/month). Or for 60EUR/month (60$) I could get a root server with 64GB Ram, 2x500GB SSD, i7-6700, 30TB traffic.

What is your definition of a "root server" and where do you rent them? Do you mean a dedicated server? I've checked a few providers and none of them come close the costs/benefits you're listing. OVH's EG-16 (4c/8t, 16G, 2x4T) is $79/mo. 1-and-1's L4i (4c/4t, 12G, 2x1T) is $80/mo.

SoYouStart (OVH's lower tier brand) has 4c/4t 32 GB 3x120 GB SSD) for $49/mo. Or same price, same ram, 2x2TB and 8t with a slightly slower clock.
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