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I made my son cannabis cookies. They changed his life

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Re: I made my son cannabis cookies. They changed his life

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I'm for the legalization of marijuana, but I really hate the arguments these articles present in favor of it; I'm sure your raging 9-year-old kid would chill out on a strong dose of heroin, too. We should not falsely elevate marijuana as some wonder drug. Surely, there's a better argument that can be presented for legalization?

Technically, this isn't an argument for legalization, but an argument for medical use of synthetic cannabinoids. If research were not so difficult, you could treat this with a pill, which does nothing for all the other problems of the war on drugs.

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#102
post #13

I'm for the legalization of marijuana, but I really hate the arguments these articles present in favor of it; I'm sure your raging 9-year-old kid would chill out on a strong dose of heroin, too. We should not falsely elevate marijuana as some wonder drug. Surely, there's a better argument that can be presented for legalization?

Is the article asking for legalization, of for proper controls of it to be used as a medicine? It is illegal for me to buy Heroine, but my doctor can prescribe me dia-Morphine which amounts to the same thing. Why stop something being used as a medicine because you don't want recreational use?

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post #82
post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'm sure your raging 9-year-old kid would chill out on a strong dose of heroin, too Read what you've said again; do you realize how completely ridiculous this sounds? A "strong dose" of heroin, to a 9-year-old who is opiate naive, will obviously not cause them to "chill out." It will cause them to horribly itch, turn green in the face, violently vomit, alternate between pouring sweat and feeling freezing cold, moan…

One could properly dose this 9-year-old and make him "chill out." I have no doubt that it is possible. That said, I really agree with your argument. You make a great case for legalization that isn't merely "oh hur dur look how my child mellows out on weed." Thank you.

Yes and in fact we do basically give stimulants to roudy kids in the form of Adderall and Vyvance.

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post #24

I spent the majority of 2012 in hospitals with two family members fighting cancers. I had a lot of conversations with doctors/nurses and often enough MMJ was discussed. "Off the record", of course. The general consensus was CBDs have many apparent benefits, it was even posited they may inhibit malignant cell formations(further study required). The consensus also was that the THC race to get the most 'chronic' high fr…

Thanks for the link. I know someone too who has greatly benefitted from CBD as well. This is only anecdotal but I've heard that there is a positive relationship between CBD and THC, where for some people/conditions it is helpful to have both

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I recall in 70s/80s Denmark and Netherlands made pot legal in parts of Amsterdam and Copenhagen. The areas quickly turned into dumps. I'm fine with Slab City but do we wan't this for all of US?

Amsterdam is very far from being a dump. Sure, the (very small) red light district might not be the kind of place you take your mother-in-law, but outside that it's a wonderful, picturesque, friendly, vibrant city.

Re: I made my son cannabis cookies. They changed his life

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post #24

I spent the majority of 2012 in hospitals with two family members fighting cancers. I had a lot of conversations with doctors/nurses and often enough MMJ was discussed. "Off the record", of course. The general consensus was CBDs have many apparent benefits, it was even posited they may inhibit malignant cell formations(further study required). The consensus also was that the THC race to get the most 'chronic' high fr…

On the other hand, the strain mentioned in this article is famously high in THC.

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post #86

" We left Rhode Island [and moved to New York, where they cannot get medical cannabis] with almost a liter of cannabis-infused oil, but, even though we measure it out in drops, it won’t last forever. And because my son had to turn in his medical-marijuana license when we moved, we can’t go back to get more. " I hate to point this out, but that one quote nullifies the rest of the article. When they moved, they would h…

I wanted to cry, thinking that I could buy bags of White Russian but I wouldn’t be able to take them out of Colorado. If we bring our son’s marijuana when we travel, we worry that we’re committing interstate drug trafficking.

Isn't moving the oil from Rhode Island to New York the same thing?

Re: I made my son cannabis cookies. They changed his life

#108

The war on drugs is probably one of the biggest crime against humanity since WW2 with millions of deaths, millions in prisons, and trillions of dollars and human resources wasted, mostly affecting the poor and minorities everywhere. This needs to stop. Sadly, it looks like it will go on for a few more decades.

"The war on drugs is probably one of the biggest crime against humanity since WW2 "

Spoken by someone who has never known an opioid or cocaine addict, and watched lives crumble, sometimes into death.

Most drugs are quite dangerous and have seriously adverse affects upon populations at large.

Cocaine, Meth, and Opioids create massive social health problems far beyond anything dope or alcohol ever could.

I have no doubt there are 'responsible' users out there, but in general, those things will lay waste to populations at large.

I had a friend who lived in his (wealthy) parents basement, smocking crack all day, every day. Visiting with him - there was gerbil feces everywhere, a divot in the sofa were he sat all day, and a pile of ashes next to him on the sofa. He had every opportunity in life, he now lives in a clinic.

Another 'responsible partier' friend in who died of suffocation 'laughing gas' mask to his face.

Another - a weed addict (yes, despite the fact that pot is not really chemically addictive, there is definitely such a thing as addiction) - who threw himself in front of a subway in despair. Not blaming the drugs, but it's specifically related in this case.

A family member who is point-blank prescription opioid addict - and it's complicated because she gets debilitating migraines that few drugs can help her with, but the 'solution' is poison.

And finally - close family members and friends who are 'chronic' pot smokers, who manage it quite well, but are basically always high. It has dramatically affected their lives, though they are functional - they are entirely different people. I'm not sure if I would call that addiction, but I would say it is problematic.

I live in a mixed neighbourhood of creatives/wealthy/working class, there's a health clinic across the street - and the effect of crack in my neighbourhood is quite visible.

Visit places where the 'war on drugs' is truly being lost, like West Virginia, and you get the picture pretty quickly.

Of course there is no reason to put pot smokers in jail - but this antagonism about the 'war on drugs' is very naive, unsympathetic, and dangerous.

Chewing on coca leaves? Maybe. The occasional LSD/Hyabithsca user? Doesn't matter.

But there is no way we will legalize opioids, coke, meth - it doesn't matter that some can 'handle it' - it just wreaks havoc overall. On the whole they destroy lives, families, social scenes, and this is before the legal framework.

I think that the 'perception' problem of the 'war on drugs' is largely led by people who are recreational users, living in the 'Burning Man' bubble of people who have their act together. Then they read up on 'jailing' because of this and that. Remember that if you're in that club, heck, if you're reading HN, you're probably in the top 5% of Americans, and probably the top 0.1% of global population.

Visit your local Salvation Army :)

Re: I made my son cannabis cookies. They changed his life

#109
post #46
post #13

I'm for the legalization of marijuana, but I really hate the arguments these articles present in favor of it; I'm sure your raging 9-year-old kid would chill out on a strong dose of heroin, too. We should not falsely elevate marijuana as some wonder drug. Surely, there's a better argument that can be presented for legalization?

> I'm sure your raging 9-year-old kid would chill out on a strong dose of heroin, too Read what you've said again; do you realize how completely ridiculous this sounds? A "strong dose" of heroin, to a 9-year-old who is opiate naive, will obviously not cause them to "chill out." It will cause them to horribly itch, turn green in the face, violently vomit, alternate between pouring sweat and feeling freezing cold, moan…

> Cannabis, even at a very "strong dose," will cause none of this.

It's ridiculous to compare cannabis to heroin, but it's still worth pointing out that giving a strong dose to someone who is 9 is a very bad idea that would probably be very unpleasant for the kid. There can be a tendency for people to overcompensate to "reefer madness" propaganda and tell people there are no issues with marijuana. It's probably a lot better than alcohol, but it's still a psychoactive substance that needs to be treated with respect.

Fortunately, the mother in this article seems to realize that and has put in a lot of effort into proper dosing:

>After the cookies finished baking, I’d taste a few crumbs and annotate the effects in a notebook. Often, I felt woozy. One variation put me to sleep. When I had convinced myself that a batch was okay, I’d give a cookie to my 9-year-old son.

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#110
post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Singapore is fucked up in so many ways, it's not even funny. Yeah, yeah, fanboys, I know how cool it is in so many ways, but it is a fucking oligarchy at the end of any day.

It's also an island of stability and prosperity in a region of chaos and poverty.

And I live in one of the poorest of those countries and it's lovely. You could not pay me to set foot in Singapore.
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