We have a very long way to go it seems. That was almost nonsensical.
Artificial Intelligence Generates Christmas Song from Holiday Image
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#102Is it just me or it really sounds like a randomly generated chord progression that barely makes any musical sense?
Sounds a lot like songsmith to me...
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The issue is not with the statistical but with the parameters around the output and the organization of training data.
I think that your assumption is that the genius of Shakespeare's plays can be statistically reproduced through sufficiently-clever organisation. That is not obviously true to me. Some things are just art, capable of being truly understood only by a creature with a head and heart, arms & legs, love & hate, emotions, experiences — in short, a man.
Art is about perception not creation. If autonomously created art produces the same perception and evocative response, it sufficiently passes that test.
An autonomous agent doesn't need to understand the underlying emotion, it just needs to mimic it.
A autonomous car doesn't know why it shouldn't hit a child that jumps into its path, or why it is making any decisions at all despite those being some of the most important and fundamental to humans on earth. It just needs to reproduce the actions of a human that does understand those things.
Yes, I believe that artificial creativity will produce art will be indistinguishable from that made by humans.
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I think that your "700MB uncompressed" fails to take into account that the construction, development, and maturation of the brain relies heavily on cellular and molecular mechanisms. I think it is a little disingenuous to hide the enormous wealth of information necessary to create a brain, much less understand and utilize one, inside of your compiler.
I don't think you are correct from an information computation point of view. When looking at the computation done by neurons in the brain it is sufficient to abstract away the lower-level substrate in which it occurs. You and other posters are all correct regarding the huge volume of information on which human minds are trained. it's hardly unsupervised learning either :) --------- EDIT: In response to your comment,…
> (This is a bit of a stretch as it's not possible to deduce the laws of the universe rigorously.)
Not sure I agree. This is known as the problem of induction, and Solomonoff tackles it quite well I think.
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You sound like some of the kids I teach. All 17 - 18 year old kids have phones and check them at least every 5 minutes. I mentioned that it'll be weird when they are wearing some sort of augmented reality glasses and teachers won't be able to tell if students are concentrating or reading reddit. The kids all said "That'll never happen." as if technology is stuck where we are today. They were astounded when I told the…
It's one thing to say "VR will be commonplace in 10 years" or "Self driving cars will be commonplace in 10 years". That, I can believe because we already have prototypes and I've messed with them and could imagine advancing them. It is quite another thing to claim that human adult level strong AI is coming "very very soon" and could happen overnight. The latter is just science fiction wishful thinking. I have no reas…
> I have no reason to believe we will ever have truly thinking, sentient computers
Unless you think human brains work on magical pixie dust, I'd say you have quite a few reasons.
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ythn, you should start where we had the combustion engine, since it was a source of huge amounts of power (the power density of the fuel) that was already effectively being turned into motion. What I'm saying is that the server farms @ Google, Amazon, and elsewhere, are at the stage of the "combustion engine" -- not just 'powerful enough', but more powerful than necesssary. I base this on a count of the number of neu…
I don't doubt we will be able to do great things with machine learning in the coming years. What I do doubt is that machine learning will become generic anytime soon. I predict machine learning will always need some degree of specialization - we aren't reaching general intelligence/learning within our lifetimes. A machine that is awesome at playing Go will suck at translating languages. I also predict machine learnin…
> we aren't reaching general intelligence/learning within our lifetimes
Almost certainly false.
> I also predict machine learning will never be able to surpass humans in terms of creative ability
Algorithms are already churning out papers that are accepted to journals, and they can compose crude music. This a mere 10-15 years after the study first began. I give it maybe 20 years before a computer generated song will appear on one of the top charts. These will likely still be domain specific algorithms.
> Humans can invent new things, machines seem only capable of rehashing existing things
So you think human brains run on magical pixie dust? "Things" that humans invent can all be described by finite bit strings, which means generating "new things" is a fiction.
We discover these compositions just like a computer would. The secret sauce that we have but don't yet know how to describe algorithmically, is discerning those bit strings that have more value to us than others, like a clever turn of phrase is more valued than a dry, factual delivery.
> If you "teach" a machine how to write by feeding it thousands of books, but you exclude books that have unreliable narrators, will the machine ever write a book whose narrator is unreliable? I think not.
I don't see why not, even if we stick to domain-specific novel generation, but it depends on how you train the system based on the inputs. Random evolution is hardly a new concept in this domain.
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#108Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's one thing to say "VR will be commonplace in 10 years" or "Self driving cars will be commonplace in 10 years". That, I can believe because we already have prototypes and I've messed with them and could imagine advancing them. It is quite another thing to claim that human adult level strong AI is coming "very very soon" and could happen overnight. The latter is just science fiction wishful thinking. I have no reas…
> I have no reason to believe we will ever have truly thinking, sentient computers Unless you think human brains work on magical pixie dust, I'd say you have quite a few reasons.
I'm not even convinced that the human brain can be modeled in terms of a Turing machine. How does does the brain achieve free will - the ability to "decide" between two arbitrary, equally-weighted things? RNG? And yet, it doesn't "feel" random.
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I don't doubt we will be able to do great things with machine learning in the coming years. What I do doubt is that machine learning will become generic anytime soon. I predict machine learning will always need some degree of specialization - we aren't reaching general intelligence/learning within our lifetimes. A machine that is awesome at playing Go will suck at translating languages. I also predict machine learnin…
I'm curious if this is in spite of you being on board that "sure, server farms do more than enough computation for parity with the human brain" or whether you don't consider neural nets in relation to human neural nets (biological brains)? If you do consider and admit that computationally there seems to be enough horsepower there, where does your skepticism come from that anybody would figure it out? Alternatively, d…
I'm skeptical because you are promising the moon, and when I look and weigh the tech for myself it seems many orders of magnitude less advanced than your hype leads one to believe.
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> I have no reason to believe we will ever have truly thinking, sentient computers Unless you think human brains work on magical pixie dust, I'd say you have quite a few reasons.
I'm not even convinced that the human brain can be modeled in terms of a Turing machine. How does does the brain achieve free will - the ability to "decide" between two arbitrary, equally-weighted things? RNG? And yet, it doesn't "feel" random.
This presumes free will, which is itself contentious. I think it's clear we have the appearance of free will, but it's not clear that consciousness actually makes decisions rather than an emergent appearance of agency, claiming decisions as made for actions that are already in process. If you're going to make a claim about the feasibility of AI that relies on free will, you'll have to prove free will first.