Jobs on Flash: Hypocrisy So Thick You Could Cut it with a Knife

Post by stcredzero » Fri, Apr 30, 2010, 1:47 AM UTC

apphacker wrote: post #49

aneth wrote: post #7

The only people I know defending Adobe and Flash are Flash developers and Adobe itself. Everybody else tolerates Flash begrudgingly. I miss a few flash games here and there on my iPhone. Beyond that, good riddance. Flash is the RealPlayer of the decade.

I started using Amazon Video which uses flash. I like to be able to view movies and videos I've purchased where ever I am on whatever computer I am, and as of right now that's only possible with flash. I doubt Amazon would make this a direct video since Flash permits some form of rights management for content owners. If it were just a video I could download it and distribute it how I wanted. Which while ultimately is…

Post by donaq » Fri, Apr 30, 2010, 2:10 AM UTC

boredguy8 wrote: post #59

pohl wrote: post #2

I wish I knew why the concept of hypocrisy is so difficult to grasp that people are prone to apply it incorrectly. Maybe people just don't understand when someone is making a moral statement, and when someone isn't. The claim here appears to be that since Apple ships Windows apps that don't use that platform to its fullest, Jobs cannot claim that least-common-denominator middleware is unhealthy for a platform. That m…

Neal Stephenson, "Diamond Age" "You know, when I was a young man, hypocrisy was deemed the worst of vices," Finkle-McGraw said. "It was all because of moral relativism. You see, in that sort of a climate, you are not allowed to criticise others--after all, if there is no absolute right and wrong, then what grounds is there for criticism?" ... "Now, this led to a good deal of general frustration, for people are natura…

Post by [deleted] » Fri, Apr 30, 2010, 2:49 AM UTC

zmmmmm wrote: post #94

glhaynes wrote: post #86

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The very fact that those are some of the things that have been criticized the most (the list would have had to have included Finder until a few months ago!) and with many cries to have them converted to Cocoa may reveal hypocrisy but it also proves Jobs' point: cross-platform, least-common-denominator stuff almost never provides the level of enjoyment that native, non-legacy stuff does. Many think the web has proven…

> it also proves Jobs' point: cross-platform, least-common-denominator stuff almost never provides the level of enjoyment that native, non-legacy stuff does Not really. If the difference was that big, he would have devoted resources to porting his own software. Being the perfectionist he is, and not porting his own software, one has to conclude the differences just aren't that big.

Post by astrange » Fri, Apr 30, 2010, 2:51 AM UTC

binspace wrote: post #72

binspace wrote: post #71

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The problem with H.264 is there is a conflict of interest involved. Microsoft and Apple have lots of money riding on the adoption of H.264. If it is the standard, they directly profit. In the medium to long term, end-user quality is negatively affected by adopting close standards.

Also, the lawyers have promised to basically sue open source developers who do not pay royalties.

Post by aufreak3 » Fri, Apr 30, 2010, 2:58 AM UTC

aufreak3 wrote: post #108

I buy Apple's lines on this one. For long, I've been going "Grrrr...." over Flash heating up my macbook pro when run under MacOSX, but running much cooler (as in temperature) under windows on the exact same hardware. So much for cross-platform-ness. ... and though Apple's comments do mention Adobe taking its time to cocoa-ize its apps, this is clearly about the iPod Touches and iPhones and iPads. Its sad, however, th…