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Re: Police raid Gizmodo editor's house

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post #29

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No such thing as bad publicity. Imagine gizmodo's ad revenues for today!

Imagine them being included in calculations of penal fines, while you're at it. If a conviction ensues the value of Gawker's increased traffic and ad revenue will surely be scrutinized to determine the extent of their economic benefit.

If I benefit from covering this, will I have to give the money back? What about the New York Times? What about Apple?

Re: Police raid Gizmodo editor's house

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post #19

Why do people automatically assume this has anything to do with journalism? What if it's about one company illegally obtaining the trade secrets of another and then releasing that trade secret to a global media? The whole thing smelled fishy to begin with. I honestly can't say what I believe. However, if this was some kind of setup and they find evidence that Gizmodo intended to steal that prototype then that would d…

Gawker's COO is arguing on that basis ( http://gizmodo.com/5524843/ )

Reading that warrant makes me not regret the full-disk encryption on every computer in my house. It makes the computer slower, but it removes any incentive to remove the device from my home. (And it removes the ability of my own computer to incriminate me.)

Re: Police raid Gizmodo editor's house

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post #99

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Chen is an employee of a media organization. A media organization with a legal staff, I might add.

But not a very good one, clearly.

If there's one word that can't be used to describe this case, it's "clear". Nothing is clear yet, except that Apple is mad.

Re: Police raid Gizmodo editor's house

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Section 1070 California Evidence Code protects sources of information from discovery by the state. It does not protect evidence related to the commission of a crime. http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=evid&#...

What crime? The gent who found the phone called Apple repeatedly to give it back and was ignored.

Well, the only way we know that to have happened is via Gizmodo's account of what the guy who sold it to them said. I'm not saying he didn't, but we've hardly gotten irrefutable proof that it actually happened. It is, after all, in the guy's interest to make himself look like he was trying to return it.

Re: Police raid Gizmodo editor's house

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post #71
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Section 1070 California Evidence Code protects sources of information from discovery by the state. It does not protect evidence related to the commission of a crime. http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=evid&#...

What crime? The gent who found the phone called Apple repeatedly to give it back and was ignored.

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Re: Police raid Gizmodo editor's house

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post #78

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Why didn't he do something reasonable, like turn it into the bartender or the police?

His legal obligation was to return it to the bartender, but calling Apple to return it is hardly "unreasonable."

Given that the people he spoke to wouldn't even be aware of the existence of the lost prototype, I don't think you could call that an honest attempt to return the phone at all.

Even sending an email to sjobs@apple.com would've been more likely to get the phone back to Apple.

Re: Police raid Gizmodo editor's house

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post #62

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I feel for his wife. But I have to wonder whether Jason Chen is the guy who chose to wreck Powell's life to cram one more factoid into a big story, and what just consequences from that would look like.

Is there any evidence whatsoever that Gray Powell's life is "wrecked"? He still has a job and if he were fired he'd get a new job really quickly. He's now the most well known iPhone engineer and only known sin was something that could happen to anyone and I have a hard time believing would close future career doors. In reality it will probably help him get interviews in the future.

Wrecked, no, but the dude was unnecessarily abused and humiliated for, as far as I can tell, shits and giggles and ad exposures.

Re: Police raid Gizmodo editor's house

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post #62

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Is there any evidence whatsoever that Gray Powell's life is "wrecked"? He still has a job and if he were fired he'd get a new job really quickly. He's now the most well known iPhone engineer and only known sin was something that could happen to anyone and I have a hard time believing would close future career doors. In reality it will probably help him get interviews in the future.

"he'd get a new job really quickly" You think? (recruiter reads resume) "Oh, yeah, you're the guy who lost the iPhone prototype! I can't wait to hire you!" :-)

By all accounts I have heard he's quite a talented engineer. I doubt that recruiters are all so daft to equate losing a phone to incompetent engineer. It was only huge news because of Apple's historic success at keeping secrets--if he did the same thing while working for Google it would have stayed to a few tech blogs and the world continue on oblivious.

Re: Police raid Gizmodo editor's house

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post #97

I'm glad. Around this whole thing, there seemed to be this aura of "teehee, it's ok, we're on the internet!" It seems like they don't believe they could have possibly done anything wrong. It's not that I can't imagine the glee they'd feel when they were offered the opportunity to buy the prototype. But since that glee was not followed up by any second thoughts -- for exmaple, about receiving stolen property, or trade…

I agree with you. But, although I haven't studied this event all that carefully, there is a difference between corporate espionage or some sort of malicious attempt at blatantly undermining Apple -- and the way Gizmodo presented their story, afaik. Gizmodo almost seemed to poke fun at the weird circumstances of the prototype being left behind (the photos of the bar and all that). Did they reveal any trade secrets abo…

They'd probably be mostly OK if they had just shown the exterior of the thing - it (or something very similar) has appeared in photographs on the internet before, I believe.

But the teardown showing the internals? That's got to be of significant interest to competing manufacturers.

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