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Re: Visual Studio for Mac

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I can't recognise this new Microsoft. It's basically as if this was a new company wrt. Open Source and competing.

It's just another corporation doing its thing to stay in business.

They ran into a dead end and changed the strategy. They can change it again. Utimately, money decides.

Re: Visual Studio for Mac

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Can this cross-compile (and perhaps remote debug) win32 and wpf applications, for example targeting a windows VM? That would be pretty awesome!

I don't think so, it's still a MonoDevelop fork

I don't see why it would preclude it from cross-compiling WPF apps. WPF is just a bunch of assemblies - they only run on Windows, but if you're building your own code against them, only the metadata in them needs to be loaded by the compiler.

Of course, you'd still need the assemblies - they could be extracted from .NET redist, but it's not easy.

Re: Visual Studio for Mac

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I don't know if it's just the usual whining of people complaining about new things. From the exterior (I'm too young and the only Mac I've ever used was the Macintosh Plus - bragging , with 4Mo of RAM- while I was a child), it really seems like Apple has dropped the ball for professionals, both developers and graphics people. There are now equally well designed PCs (laptops and desktops) from other manufacturers, Win…

I don't now where you lived the past 20 years but theses are maybe the most classical arguments against mac in business. Mac have never been "for Pro" if you go that way. So I guess it confirm that it's not the company that shifted it's focus, but maybe there is more potentials customers expectation of Apple going more "pro".

They may be classics, but are they wrong?

Yes, Apple has never targeted businesses, but they did target individuals professionnals at some point. Video and sound editors used to work on Macs, and now move to windows. It's a classic, but is it wrong?

Re: Visual Studio for Mac

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So Microsoft is treating the Mac more seriously as a professional platform while Apple is treating it less seriously? I'm not saying this in a snarky way; I mean it literally as a change of corporate strategies in both companies. Microsoft seems to be saying, If you are a pro mainly using the Mac for professional work, we want to do a better job of empowering you, and Apple seems to be saying, If you are a pro mainly…

> If you are a pro mainly using the Mac for professional work... This is extremely dishonest assessment that only 'Developers' do professional work. Mac is used by Engineers, CAD/CAM, designers, illustrators, artists, musicians, etc and to reduce it only to developers is disingenuous. I for one is happy with the new Mac and there are several people who've found it great for 'pro' use.

The mac users in science are also legion

Re: Visual Studio for Mac

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You do know the difference between a text editor and an IDE? That's the difference between VS Code and VS.

Do YOU know the difference? Would it hurt to be more concrete? I'm going to venture a guess based on my assumptions, which are probably wrong, but then we can at least start a discussion: -VS Code doesn't support solution-wide refactoring like renaming classes or moving a method from one class to another -VS Code doesn't support runtime debugging (breakpoints) -VS Code doesn't have a visual editor -VS Code doesn't ha…

VS Code supports runtime debugging.

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I think Microsoft will end-of-life Xamarin Studio and will convert it to Visual Studio brand with just support of OSX and Linux

I wouldn't bet my money on a Linux release

You should, Microsoft will probably release an MS Linux distro soon. (Besides the Debian or whatever they now have for Azure users, I mean.)

MS is going all Oracle-y on us, withdrawing from the consumer market as fast as they can, and heading for the green pastures of the corporate market, where fat happy companies are there to be milked. They are sick and tired of fighting for consumer money one penny at a time.

(XBox is probably not long for this world either.)

Re: Visual Studio for Mac

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I'm glad to see more Microsoft dev tools on other platforms but don't lose sight of why this is happening. Microsoft is shifting their business to the cloud. They make their money off Azure and other services. In other words, they are making their money mainly off of developers now and its in their best interest to get on the good side of devs which is why they suddenly have a vested interest in open sourcing tools a…

What's the long-term business goal for Azure lock-in? If .Net runs as well on Linux as it does on Windows, then there really is no reason to use Azure over any other cloud provider like AWS where generic CentOS or Ubuntu boxes are no different than their Azure counterparts. Back when .Net was Windows only, they gave it away because the goal was the developers would pay a lot of money for MSDN, GUI apps on Windows, SQ…

Because AWS treats the cloud as infrastructure. Microsoft treats the cloud as infrastructure + software & services and they have superior software. Using their tools means exposure to their software which means that a lot of people will chose paying for other software.

Re: Visual Studio for Mac

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Interesting move.

I wonder how this will affect Rider (the new jetbrains C# IDE based on intellij, currently in EAP) and if they will continue to invest in Resharper for multiple platforms, or focus effort on bringing the resharper functionality into Rider.

...I also can't help but think this sort of indicates that the C# tooling in visual studio code is being reconsidered; which seems reasonable, I was always disappointed by it.

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