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Re: LinkedIn launches Salary to chart what we earn

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Post by tajen »

yalogin wrote: post #97
allengeorge wrote: post #32

Hopefully LinkedIn won't ask me for my salary in the future. Cause I definitely don't trust them with my salary info. They'll sell it to everyone - recruiters, other companies...

What do you mean you don't trust them? The need the salary information only to sell to recruiters and companies. Any other value proposition they might come up with is purely bogus.

They'll find another way. It's Linked In. They regularly purchase and merge data from various sources. They'll phone your employer if need be.

"Hey employers, tell us how much your employees earn, so we tell you where you could save!"

Re: LinkedIn launches Salary to chart what we earn

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Post by krisdol »

FLUX-YOU wrote: post #42

This is never going to be accurate. Titles alone are a poor indicator of ability in software. E.g. I hold the title of "Senior Software Engineer" despite only have 2 years/4 mo. of experience and very little of that experience is project management or non-code things. When talking to recruiters in my area for a new position and giving a base salary of $90k, they routinely come back with "You won't get that offer with…

Agreed. I've seen Senior be anywhere from Level 2 to Level 5 Software Engineer, depending on how the company assigns the wording.

Re: LinkedIn launches Salary to chart what we earn

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Post by AIMunchkin »

electriclove wrote: post #11

I played around a bit and didn't find it too useful. The folks at step.com (previously posted on HN) produce something that is much more useful for me: https://blog.step.com/2016/06/16/more-salaries-twitter-linke...

As someone who has worked at several of the listed companies in that plot, that's significantly more accurate (IMO of course) than either Glassdoor or the Salary data.

Re: LinkedIn launches Salary to chart what we earn

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Post by jklinger410 »

shortstuffsushi wrote: post #96
jklinger410 wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>I believe LinkedIn may have already reached its maximum potential and is on a downward trend. I think almost the exact opposite. Linkedin is still missing many features that could turn it into a bit of a game changer for business. Maybe as a recruiting tool it's currently trash. I can get behind that. But if Microsoft manages to bring in a fresh set of users with some new features it could expand into something actu…

Not to say it won't happen, but which fresh set of users would Microsoft bring? Who do you know that isn't on LinkedIn (registered, if not actively using)? And of those people, what features do you think would make them want to start using LinkedIn?

1. Mash Linkedin and Skype and create a Slack/Facebook For Business Competitor.

2. Integrate that with Office 360 for Business.

3. Create a much more appealing Resume/CV that either integrates well with hiring tools or competes directly with them (monster, indeed, so-on) by creating your own backend for recruiting.

4. Make it very simple to migrate your MS Live/Outlook/Skype profile to a Linkedin profile (or do it automatically ala Google+).

This makes advertisers happy. This makes any corp using Office 360 immediately integrate to Linkedin. This makes Linkedin much more appealing to candidates and recruiters. This could bring people over from competitor services. This actually makes the entire MS Office suite more appealing.

Re: LinkedIn launches Salary to chart what we earn

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Post by TheCoelacanth »

FLUX-YOU wrote: post #42

This is never going to be accurate. Titles alone are a poor indicator of ability in software. E.g. I hold the title of "Senior Software Engineer" despite only have 2 years/4 mo. of experience and very little of that experience is project management or non-code things. When talking to recruiters in my area for a new position and giving a base salary of $90k, they routinely come back with "You won't get that offer with…

It lets you filter by ranges of years of experience. I was way below the median when putting in just my title, but within a few thousand when also choosing the right years of experience range.

Re: LinkedIn launches Salary to chart what we earn

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Post by ghurtado »

clifanatic wrote: post #18
hamandcheese wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What incentive do people have to lie about their salary (assuming it's anonymous)?

Well, if everybody else thinks that programmers make $200K/year, there's a chance that somebody might consider paying $200K/year. That seems like an incentive to me.

Maybe, but you would need massive collusion with millions of developers that you have never met in order to pull this stunt.

I don't think that sounds very plausible.

Re: LinkedIn launches Salary to chart what we earn

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Post by omouse »

pcurve wrote: post #52
Raphmedia wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's why you should lie even to forms when asked for your salary.

Let's just all put down random number between $220,000 - $275,000 as base.

for devs it would actually get our salaries up to the right level, the big tech companies held down wages for 4-5 years.

Re: LinkedIn launches Salary to chart what we earn

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Post by riffraff »

badloginagain wrote: post #55
mavelikara wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here is what the _current_ content says: One of the interesting dichotomies with compensation data is that many users want this information, but don’t want to have their individual data exposed or connected back to them. Salary information is personal to each of our members. With this in mind, and consistent with our Members First organizational philosophy, one of the first goals we established when we set out to emb…

Until 7 months later they quietly update the ToS.

7 months later they would still not have access to the submitted data that was never stored, only to future submissions.

Re: LinkedIn launches Salary to chart what we earn

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Post by mathattack »

mundo wrote: post #63
KiwiCoder wrote: post #29

I believe LinkedIn may have already reached its maximum potential and is on a downward trend. Of course I'm speaking only from personal experience, but as both candidate and hiring manager LinkedIn holds next to no value for me. I see it as a commons that has been largely ruined by recruiting agents who are incentivised by their employers to maximise candidate throughput at everyone else's expense. There is some resi…

"Contact info storage service for ex-colleagues I wasn't chummy enough to add on a real social network" pretty much sums it up for me.

I think there's a big gap between current and former colleagues I want to keep professional contact with, and folks I want to show photos of my kids.

Re: LinkedIn launches Salary to chart what we earn

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Post by arcanus »

electriclove wrote: post #11

I played around a bit and didn't find it too useful. The folks at step.com (previously posted on HN) produce something that is much more useful for me: https://blog.step.com/2016/06/16/more-salaries-twitter-linke...

Interesting that the SDE2 at twitter is shown as lower than SDE1
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