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Introducing Marketplace: Buy and Sell with Your Local Community

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Re: Introducing Marketplace: Buy and Sell with Your Local Community

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Not really. Dismissing someone from your attention on Facebook is trivial .

But dismissing yourself from someone else's attention isn't.

Very true, but couldn't you say that about any p2p marketplace/selling website (like Craigslist)? If someone's the harass-y type, I doubt they'd be bound by platform

Re: Introducing Marketplace: Buy and Sell with Your Local Community

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I sold my old motorcycle in 2009 using FB Marketplace. Half the inquiries I got were from scammers, even then... Have they improved anything in that regard? I especially don't want people spamming my Facebook messages now that they're more intrusive.

Yeah, in my opinion both facebook and craigslist are missing the point in not having active moderation.

I'm prototyping an idea for a locally moderated community bulletin board at townsourced.com.

The idea is to try to mesh the strong moderation you get with sites like Reddit with a marketplace for buying and selling (among other things).

Re: Introducing Marketplace: Buy and Sell with Your Local Community

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I don't know if its just me, judging by the ad's that facebook shows me 70% of them are not legit. Fake clothes, fake watches, scam companies etc. How can I trust a service that will be not regulated at all, I mean its a nice idea, although I'd be very careful on what am looking in there. (At least ebay is a bit more regulated I'd say)

Yeah I don't know why they'd release something like this with no built in moderation.

Re: Introducing Marketplace: Buy and Sell with Your Local Community

#105

I live in a geographically isolated area which is small enough to not get it's own Criagslist area, but big enough that there is a lot of 2nd hand selling and buying. This almost exclusively happens through a FB group. It seems like this is a good natural move for FB.

You should check out townsourced.com. It was specifically built for small communities, like those overlooked by craigslist.

Re: Introducing Marketplace: Buy and Sell with Your Local Community

#106

I used to buy/sell on Craigslist a lot but now use NextDoor (neighborhood-based, address-verified social network). I never had any safety issues with CL, but ND definitely feels safer/friendlier. Most of the people I meet are local housewives getting rid of stuff. There tends to be less haggling, and because it's neighborhood/town based, you don't have to drive as far to meet (huge plus). I think the reason that peop…

Yeah but what I don't like about next door is that by default you're sharing your entire profile with your closest 16+ neighborhoods. That means your actual verified address, what you're selling, and anything else you put on nextdoor.

Why do these sites keep making privacy settings open to all by default?

Re: Introducing Marketplace: Buy and Sell with Your Local Community

#107
I've had marketplace on my phone for the past few months. I guess New Zealand was the test market for it.

Personally, I don't use it. Facebook provides no protection for either buyer or seller, which is something that Ebay (or Trademe [0] in the case of NZ) offer. I'm constantly seeing people on the local buy/sell/exchange groups complaining about buying stolen phones, or people failing to send items, or various other things.

It's not difficult to make a fake account. Although it does say how long the person has been a Facebook member on the listings.

I just looked on my phone, and the first thing I see for sale is synthetic marijuana. This doesn't bode well.

The user experience is pretty poor too. For a test, I wanted to see if I could find a couch. The closest I could filter to was Furniture. I then searched for Couch, which then removed the filter, so I added the filter back on. Instead of seeing a bunch of couches, half the things for sale were tables and beds.

I'm not a fan of the image-only listings either. I'd prefer to see a title with an image when searching. A price would be useful too. Instead I get a bunch of crappy cellphone pictures of peoples old shit.

Then there's the issue for me that you aren't allowed to buy and sell firearms through Facebook, despite the fact that it's perfectly legal in New Zealand, and Trademe allows you to do it.

I can say that I will stick to using Trademe.

[0]: http://www.trademe.co.nz/

Re: Introducing Marketplace: Buy and Sell with Your Local Community

#108

I used to buy/sell on Craigslist a lot but now use NextDoor (neighborhood-based, address-verified social network). I never had any safety issues with CL, but ND definitely feels safer/friendlier. Most of the people I meet are local housewives getting rid of stuff. There tends to be less haggling, and because it's neighborhood/town based, you don't have to drive as far to meet (huge plus). I think the reason that peop…

Yeah but what I don't like about next door is that by default you're sharing your entire profile with your closest 16+ neighborhoods. That means your actual verified address, what you're selling, and anything else you put on nextdoor. Why do these sites keep making privacy settings open to all by default?

That is the default, but you can also opt not to show your address, and to hide all but your name from anyone outside your neighborhood. It's definitely smart not to show the address — but even still it's wise to censor yourself (don't say "seeking housesitter for 10/1 to 10/14) because people can just google you and see where you live from public records. HN folks probably realize this, but many people on ND do not...

Also note that you can post to just your neighborhood, or to yours and a few close by. You don't have to share with all (and frequently, I don't).

Re: Introducing Marketplace: Buy and Sell with Your Local Community

#109

I used to buy/sell on Craigslist a lot but now use NextDoor (neighborhood-based, address-verified social network). I never had any safety issues with CL, but ND definitely feels safer/friendlier. Most of the people I meet are local housewives getting rid of stuff. There tends to be less haggling, and because it's neighborhood/town based, you don't have to drive as far to meet (huge plus). I think the reason that peop…

I agree. There's a ton of spam and fake accounts in these types of Facebook groups which isn't a great experience and only marginally better than Craigslist. Nextdoor is far better positioned to avoid this kind of spammy experience. They require real names and verify addresses so you know the people you are interacting with are real, and actually live near you.

FYI, their user verification is very weak. So while the vast majority of folks on the network actually live where they say they do, it is trivial for an outsider to join and lurk. People share all sorts of private details (when they'll be out of town being the most common), and I'm surprised there haven't been any (publicized) incidents where thieves used ND to find leads in ritzy neighborhoods.

Re: Introducing Marketplace: Buy and Sell with Your Local Community

#110

Facebook's come under a lot of heat for refusing to moderate the buying and selling of firearms in Groups, often in violation of local laws[1]. Hopefully their moderation standards will be higher on Marketplace. [1]: https://medium.com/@monteiro/this-article-first-appeared-in-...

In my experience, they do shutdown groups for it.

They shut down the NZ Hunting Facebook group, which had over 10,000 members because people were selling firearms on it (which is not in violation of New Zealand law).

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