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Re: A.I. Doesn't Get Black Twitter

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Post by h4nkoslo »

dang wrote: post #96
h4nkoslo wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem opposite of artificial intelligence unintentionally erasing blacks is a company's built-in intelligences intentionally erasing whites, minimizing their achievements, and deconstructing their identities. Whites are not "allowed" to have achievements; they must be couched in terms of general social achievements which of course are (according to the doodles) aspirationally majority non-white, and ideally non…

Let's not have race rants on HN, please.

I'm unclear on what a "race rant" is or how this could qualify. The behavior I have described is the academic consensus on the appropriate treatment of race, it's not totally surprising that Google or anyone else would participate in that consensus. The footnotes of this article are a good starting point.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whiteness_studies

Re: A.I. Doesn't Get Black Twitter

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Post by dang »

h4nkoslo wrote: post #101
dang wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let's not have race rants on HN, please.

I'm unclear on what a "race rant" is or how this could qualify. The behavior I have described is the academic consensus on the appropriate treatment of race, it's not totally surprising that Google or anyone else would participate in that consensus. The footnotes of this article are a good starting point. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whiteness_studies

What I'm calling a rant is making grand statements on inflammatory topics that come from a place of resentment.

On HN, we're hoping for thoughtful statements that come from a place of curiosity. Those aren't just two different kinds of discourse, they're incompatible, like forest fires are incompatible with forests.

Edit: one privilege of HN moderation is getting devastating critiques of one's analogies from emailers. Ok, forest fires don't really make my point here. But there is an article called "When Analogies Fail" on the front page right now, so I'll leave it.

Re: A.I. Doesn't Get Black Twitter

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Post by a3n »

gugagore wrote: post #97
Dylan16807 wrote: post #90

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To your comment that was detected as a duplicate: >I don't think there is anything "formal" about Standard English. "Standard" English as she is spoke? No. But a3n was specifically talking about the formal version often called "Standard written English". It is very prescriptive and less flexible, which makes it easier to parse. > Can you give an example of what you're talking about? Which grammatical rules do you hav…

I'm not trying to be dense, but I still don't see it. Punctuation helps with identifying boundaries of clauses, whether they're dependent or not, whether a sentence is a question. Is this what NLP struggles with? I don't think so. One of the big unsolved problems is understanding the referents of pronouns (and other proforms, like "I will [do so] too"). Style guides and generally prescriptivism does not help that. An…

That's where AI comes in. Unless there's a human at the ready.

Re: A.I. Doesn't Get Black Twitter

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Post by gugagore »

wyager wrote: post #99
gugagore wrote: post #88

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I don't understand what you mean by "the algorithm" or "true relationships". Do you know what I mean? There's truth as in what the data says, and there's truth as in what's underlying before social processes " corrupt " the truth. This paper examines ways to get at the latent truth. Do you think that's a useful endeavor? It's dismissive to say it has anything to do with what the "author likes".

> and there's truth as in what's underlying before social processes " corrupt " the truth. Ah, so you're defining "truth" as "whatever I imagine the world would be like if society worked the way I wished it did". There's another word for that; "fantasy".

I asked you to define what you mean by "true relationship". And you did not.
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