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Re: iPhone 7

#101

Post by j28xfc5qsc » Wed, Sep 07, 2016, 7:10 PM UTC

strictnein wrote: post #23

slg wrote: post #5

I still can't get over the headphone jack. Apple does have a good record of abandoning technologies at the right time (floppies, CDs, Flash, etc) but the biggest difference is that those technologies were all on the downward slope of their popularity when Apple made the move and all had solid replacements available at the time. The headphone jack is just as popular today as it has ever been and it is still more conve…

And to say it was about "Courage". No, we all understand that it's a way for them to make more money selling their horrible headphones and licensing lightning to headphone makers.

I guess some people will buy lightning headphones instead of bluetooth, but it should be a small minority.

Re: iPhone 7

#102

Post by bluedino » Wed, Sep 07, 2016, 7:10 PM UTC

k-mcgrady wrote: post #50

berberous wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think they are really shooting themselves in the foot if they don't open up and license the W1 chip to any manufacturer that wants it. If the only way forward is to buy poor quality AirPods (I'm assuming that they audio quality, like with the EarPods, is 'okay', but not great considering the price) or even more overpriced Beats, then this is a really user hostile move. Yes, you could use Bluetooth, but I'm guessing…

>> "poor quality AirPods" ...you haven't even used them yet...

The EarPods leave quite a bit to be desired.

Re: iPhone 7

#103

Post by [deleted] » Wed, Sep 07, 2016, 7:10 PM UTC

msoad wrote: post #22

I buy a new iPhone every year. I think phone utilization is so high that around $1 a day is nothing for it. Compare it with cars clothes and other things

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Re: iPhone 7

#104

Post by [deleted] » Wed, Sep 07, 2016, 7:10 PM UTC

tajen wrote: post #21

artmageddon wrote: post #3

$160 for the AirPods? My goodness those are expensive.

As a side note, they're noise-canceling and also work as a (non-bluetooth) headset. I was expecting them to find a solution when you lose them, which is the first gripe people will have with them. Even if it's something along the lines of "come to the store, you'll get new ones for free, but we'll deactivate the old ones".

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Re: iPhone 7

#105

Post by troncheadle » Wed, Sep 07, 2016, 7:11 PM UTC

slg wrote: post #5

I still can't get over the headphone jack. Apple does have a good record of abandoning technologies at the right time (floppies, CDs, Flash, etc) but the biggest difference is that those technologies were all on the downward slope of their popularity when Apple made the move and all had solid replacements available at the time. The headphone jack is just as popular today as it has ever been and it is still more conve…

Bluetooth headphones outsold standard audio jack headphones in the US last month for the first time. This is perfectly timed.

Re: iPhone 7

#106

Post by melling » Wed, Sep 07, 2016, 7:11 PM UTC

slg wrote: post #5

I still can't get over the headphone jack. Apple does have a good record of abandoning technologies at the right time (floppies, CDs, Flash, etc) but the biggest difference is that those technologies were all on the downward slope of their popularity when Apple made the move and all had solid replacements available at the time. The headphone jack is just as popular today as it has ever been and it is still more conve…

PS/2 keyboards weren't on the way out. Apple led the way and pushed USB for a few years before it caught on.

Re: iPhone 7

#107

Post by sosborn » Wed, Sep 07, 2016, 7:11 PM UTC

SurrealSoul wrote: post #25

Honestly if you had an iPhone 6 why would you upgrade? Better battery life is cool, and it being waterproof is novel. However, its basically the same phone for the end consumer.

I'm excited about the new home button. Those have been the only point of failure on my previous iPhones.

Re: iPhone 7

#108

Post by slantedview » Wed, Sep 07, 2016, 7:11 PM UTC

slg wrote: post #5

I still can't get over the headphone jack. Apple does have a good record of abandoning technologies at the right time (floppies, CDs, Flash, etc) but the biggest difference is that those technologies were all on the downward slope of their popularity when Apple made the move and all had solid replacements available at the time. The headphone jack is just as popular today as it has ever been and it is still more conve…

Pros for wireless: no wires.

Pros for wired: better fidelity, no batteries to charge, lighter weight, more headphones to choose from, cheaper headphone options, no adapters to lose, can listen to music while charging.

Be bold.

Re: iPhone 7

#109

Post by hatsix » Wed, Sep 07, 2016, 7:11 PM UTC

enjo wrote: post #48

msoad wrote: post #22

I buy a new iPhone every year. I think phone utilization is so high that around $1 a day is nothing for it. Compare it with cars clothes and other things

Where are you getting a $365 iPhone from?

$700 new - $350 selling old one on Craigslist?

I just looked up prices on CL, and it looks like the used-iPhone market is approaching saturation... The going rate for 1-year-old iPhones is 150-200.

Re: iPhone 7

#110

Post by AlphaSite » Wed, Sep 07, 2016, 7:11 PM UTC

zanny wrote: post #75

TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought they might replace the headphone jack with a USB-C connector. Then they could do the same thing on the MacBook and it'd have two USB-C ports. But instead they chose Lightning, so now we have iPhone headphones and Android headphones. Why did it have to be this way?

> Why did it have to be this way? We could have a world where Vulkan was the one stop shop graphics API anywhere. Instead, we are in this situation where everything but Apple products supports / will support it. Why did it have to be this way?

It's the same problem as with USB C, Vulkan is predated by Apples own standard and you can't change it without hurting someone. Apple made the decision that they would rather save their own customers unnecessary pain.