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Re: DDoS protection

#101

Post by jamiesonbecker »

mschuster91 wrote: post #69
kristofferR wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, but they've also the "Wifi Captive Portal" of the internet, which frequently creates trouble (if you're using Tor for example).

As a site operator you basically must use Cloudflare and highly aggressive policies regarding Tor. I like Tor as a concept, the problem is that there is no way to stop people massively abusing Tor. Whatever you want - nazi/hate speech, swatting, trolling, DDoS (by hitting expensive render paths or by forcing cache bypasses) - operate any kind of site with user interactions and you will get messed around with by mostl…

> Trolls are destroying the Internet.

{blinking text|viruses|spam|IE6|blackouts|myspace|visual basic|2400bps|java|javascript|EMP}

rumors of its imminent demise might be exaggerated.. ;)

Re: DDoS protection

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Post by davidspiess »

paride5745 wrote: post #100
davidspiess wrote: post #73

We are switching away from hetzner managed server as we had ~30 hours of downtime this sunday. They suddenly swapped our valid ssl certificate with a self signed one. They offered no immediate support (i called them three times) and open tickets were left unanswered for another ~20 hours. As i ranted about their customer service on twitter, they finally took care of it. So please stay away from them.

> we had ~30 hours of downtime this sunday 30 hours in a 24 hours day? :O

From Sunday 11 pm to tuesday morning

Re: DDoS protection

#103

Post by Medowar »

corobo wrote: post #93
stemuk wrote: post #91

What always strikes me is the amount of free traffic Hetzner includes in their plans, always 20TB and upwards. AWS charges a whooping 90$ per TB, it keeps me wondering why their traffic is SO much more expensive than Hetzner's...

Can you actually use that traffic though? I can run AWS bandwidth at max for the entire month and (assuming I'm not spamming or whatever) I just get a bigger bill. With places like Hetzner you may be shut down for abusing their services if you use that limit too frequently.

nah, wrong. If you go over the allowed bandwith, you can get either limited to 10Mbit/s or pay 1,37€ per TB. In comparison, this is pretty cheap, but that is about waht you pay, when you buy transit. Source: https://wiki.hetzner.de/index.php/Traffic/en

Re: DDoS protection

#105

Post by Medowar »

Medowar wrote: post #103
corobo wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you actually use that traffic though? I can run AWS bandwidth at max for the entire month and (assuming I'm not spamming or whatever) I just get a bigger bill. With places like Hetzner you may be shut down for abusing their services if you use that limit too frequently.

nah, wrong. If you go over the allowed bandwith, you can get either limited to 10Mbit/s or pay 1,37€ per TB. In comparison, this is pretty cheap, but that is about waht you pay, when you buy transit. Source: https://wiki.hetzner.de/index.php/Traffic/en

correction, 1,17€/TB

Re: DDoS protection

#106

Post by bogomipz »

WA wrote: post #28
bogomipz wrote: post #17

Can someone from the EU or DE talk about where Hetzner sits reputation-wise for those not familiar with them. Are they a solid provider?

Yes, they're solid. They exist for many years. I'm a customer since 2008 I think, but they're way older than that.

Wow thanks for the input. I am wondering if they are seeing an uptick in business for compliance reasons which is one of the reason I am asking actually.

Re: DDoS protection

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Post by bedbey »

online.net has serious bios problems. their ddos protection is a joke. yes they have arbor but they are not able to use it right. unmetered isn't unmetered ! they will kick you if you use to much traffic. their connection to amsix was very bad for weeks, its now good but they first oversell the network and do the upgrades to late. look on lowendtalk how bad they are

Re: DDoS protection

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Post by nik736 »

mschuster91 wrote: post #72
nik736 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The internal network is a joke, it only works if you have all of your servers in one rack and you need to rent a switch to connect all of them. Online.net has a real RPN where you can add SAN storage to it etc etc. The PX line is a Fujitsu Desktop PC with a server CPU and ECC Ram. For me that's a compromise I don't really like. Also the network is a bit shitty since they don't route through DTAG (largest german carri…

> Also the network is a bit shitty since they don't route through DTAG (largest german carrier) Because DTAG is a bunch of . What they did and continue to do to site/net ops, is amounting to extortion. It's good that Hetzner stands up to Telekom, lots of other net ops simply pay the extortion fee.

Yes, I agree, but as a customer that sucks. The customer is the one who suffers, Hetzner is the one who wins coz they don't have to pay.

Re: DDoS protection

#110

Post by Namidairo »

If I remember correctly, didn't this host have their entire address space banned from a couple IRC networks because their support wouldn't act on abuse reports?
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