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Tim Cook, the interview: Running Apple ‘is sort of a lonely job’

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Re: Tim Cook, the interview: Running Apple ‘is sort of a lonely job’

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Post by Pxtl »

coldtea wrote: post #74
LargeCompanies wrote: post #43

I'm a six year iPhone owner who based off of the iPhone 7 rumors it's going to underwhelm in the innovation department and lose this customer. The Note 7 looks awesome due to it being waterproof and other features Apple hasn't bothered to include. Also, Google Now in terms of it understanding me is light years away from Siri, which I have used since 2011. Goigle Now's AI puts Siri to shame! See ya Apple!

> I'm a six year iPhone owner who based off of the iPhone 7 rumors it's going to underwhelm in the innovation department and lose this customer. Yeah, because better CPU, GPU, camera(s), and such are not innovative enough... > The Note 7 looks awesome due to it being waterproof and other features Apple hasn't bothered to include. Yeah, for those of us using our phone on the shower it will be a god-send. Waterproof! S…

I just got back from a Caribbean trip. I wish I'd had a waterproof phone+camera. That feature will be on my list of considerations next time I'm phone-shopping, since they're all sealed with glue and have non-removable batteries anyways these days.

Re: Tim Cook, the interview: Running Apple ‘is sort of a lonely job’

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Post by roksprok »

ufmace wrote: post #86
tptacek wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you flesh out an argument that Cook and/or Apple is "running out of time"?

I'd say that "running out of time" is probably over the top, but there's some truth behind the idea. Their huge margins and huger stock price and market cap are based on the perception that they're the company that can produce industry-changing smash hits over and over again. But Jobs was really the one doing that. Can Cook's Apple produce the next big thing, something that takes the whole tech world by storm, like t…

Isn't Alphabet's P/E twice that of Apple? 13 vs 25 if I remember correctly. Doesn't this imply that it's Google, not Apple, that people are counting on to 'produce industry-changing smash hits over and over again'?

Re: Tim Cook, the interview: Running Apple ‘is sort of a lonely job’

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Post by narrowrail »

ufmace wrote: post #96
narrowrail wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You people need to stop saying this kind of stuff. I will bet you $1k on longbets.org that we do not have fully autonomous vehicles operating on public streets in 9 years (i.e. 2025). These types of statements are confusing the non-technical 'tech press' and they are misinforming the public.

The way you worded it, I'd say we have that already: See Google's relatively public self-driving car project, already logging lots of fully autonomous miles on public streets https://youtu.be/bDOnn0-4Nq8 I do think it'll be more like 50 years to get self-driving cars being sold to the general public that can drive autonomously anywhere though.

"fully autonomous" requires no human intervention method, IMO. Google's cars have steering wheels. The gist of what I am trying to communicate is that serious disruption to the status quo will not happen from autonomous cars in my lifetime (one can quibble with specifics and lawyer the discussion at will).

Re: Tim Cook, the interview: Running Apple ‘is sort of a lonely job’

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Post by zghst »

coldtea wrote: post #64
icpmacdo wrote: post #2

PG talked about this in his talk 'before the startup' "Larry Page may seem to have an enviable life, but there are aspects of it that are unenviable. Basically at 25 he started running as fast as he could and it must seem to him that he hasn't stopped to catch his breath since. Every day new shit happens in the Google empire that only the CEO can deal with, and he, as CEO, has to deal with it. If he goes on vacation…

> Basically at 25 he started running as fast as he could and it must seem to him that he hasn't stopped to catch his breath since. Every day new shit happens in the Google empire that only the CEO can deal with, and he, as CEO, has to deal with it. If he goes on vacation for even a week, a whole week's backlog of shit accumulates. With the difference that unlike a poor single working mother, or some 40-something fact…

When you put that much work in, you just don't quit. There are huge ramifications to stepping down. And I'm sure, even if he does step down, he'll be involved for the rest of his life

Re: Tim Cook, the interview: Running Apple ‘is sort of a lonely job’

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Post by zghst »

geomark wrote: post #76
ktRolster wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FWIW the apple watch sold fairly well: http://www.wsj.com/articles/apple-watch-with-sizable-sales-c... Expectations of course are ridiculously high.

My impression is that the watch sold mainly because of Apple branding not because it solved a real problem or opened up an entire new market. People are hoping/expecting Apple's next big thing to become a viral hit lke the iPhone. The watch isn't that.

People bought it because they thought it solved an issue. Apple branding around other products have not made them successful (Apple Maps 2012, Ping, MobileMe, Newton, etc.)

Re: Tim Cook, the interview: Running Apple ‘is sort of a lonely job’

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Post by ufmace »

narrowrail wrote: post #103
ufmace wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The way you worded it, I'd say we have that already: See Google's relatively public self-driving car project, already logging lots of fully autonomous miles on public streets https://youtu.be/bDOnn0-4Nq8 I do think it'll be more like 50 years to get self-driving cars being sold to the general public that can drive autonomously anywhere though.

"fully autonomous" requires no human intervention method, IMO. Google's cars have steering wheels. The gist of what I am trying to communicate is that serious disruption to the status quo will not happen from autonomous cars in my lifetime (one can quibble with specifics and lawyer the discussion at will).

Well they have already designed a special self-driving car model from the ground up that has no provision for a steering wheel at all.

Re: Tim Cook, the interview: Running Apple ‘is sort of a lonely job’

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Post by Chinjut »

Houshalter wrote: post #100
2muchcoffeeman wrote: post #88

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Are you also suggesting that they should get some sympathy? Why?

Because they are a human being, and because wealth is not equal to happiness. It seems to correlate with happiness, but probably because wealthier people have less stress, and that's certainly not true for a CEO.

I think everyone deserves sympathy, because everyone is a human being. Larry Page's life as a CEO is surely stressful and he deserves sympathy for it. But I bet there are plenty of "poor single mother"s and "40-something factory worker"s with very stressful lives too, in many cases even more stressful than any billionaire CEO's. That can't be denied.

Re: Tim Cook, the interview: Running Apple ‘is sort of a lonely job’

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Post by narrowrail »

ufmace wrote: post #106
narrowrail wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"fully autonomous" requires no human intervention method, IMO. Google's cars have steering wheels. The gist of what I am trying to communicate is that serious disruption to the status quo will not happen from autonomous cars in my lifetime (one can quibble with specifics and lawyer the discussion at will).

Well they have already designed a special self-driving car model from the ground up that has no provision for a steering wheel at all.

Did they design it or are they operating this thing? I designed a time-travel machine, do you want a ride?

Re: Tim Cook, the interview: Running Apple ‘is sort of a lonely job’

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Post by LargeCompanies »

coldtea wrote: post #74
LargeCompanies wrote: post #43

I'm a six year iPhone owner who based off of the iPhone 7 rumors it's going to underwhelm in the innovation department and lose this customer. The Note 7 looks awesome due to it being waterproof and other features Apple hasn't bothered to include. Also, Google Now in terms of it understanding me is light years away from Siri, which I have used since 2011. Goigle Now's AI puts Siri to shame! See ya Apple!

> I'm a six year iPhone owner who based off of the iPhone 7 rumors it's going to underwhelm in the innovation department and lose this customer. Yeah, because better CPU, GPU, camera(s), and such are not innovative enough... > The Note 7 looks awesome due to it being waterproof and other features Apple hasn't bothered to include. Yeah, for those of us using our phone on the shower it will be a god-send. Waterproof! S…

Also, I mentioned Google Now vs. Siri where Google Now is light years ahead. It understands all my spoken requests and that's a big deal when driving!

Overall, I want waterproof.. wireless charging... Google Now type AI vs. Siri. Their competitors have this .. iPhone 7 should have all or some of these features yet it won't.

Only good thing about the iPhone is it's more secure then Android. Putting my credit on an Android device to use Android Pay vs. Apple Pay is something I don't feel comfortable doing.

Per all my downvotes it looks like the majority still here love Apple. Personally I love innovation and Apple isn't innovating and or being the pioneer they use to be.

Re: Tim Cook, the interview: Running Apple ‘is sort of a lonely job’

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Post by curt15 »

zghst wrote: post #105
geomark wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My impression is that the watch sold mainly because of Apple branding not because it solved a real problem or opened up an entire new market. People are hoping/expecting Apple's next big thing to become a viral hit lke the iPhone. The watch isn't that.

People bought it because they thought it solved an issue. Apple branding around other products have not made them successful (Apple Maps 2012, Ping, MobileMe, Newton, etc.)

But services have never been a core strength of Apple. They've always been at most "good enough". On the other hand, Apple has built up an enviable reputation for delivering well planned and executed physical devices with highly polished user interfaces. See also https://stratechery.com/2016/its-a-tesla/
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