FBI wants access to browser history without a warrant in terrorism, spy cases

Post by Aelinsaar » Wed, Jun 08, 2016, 3:39 AM UTC

sheepleherd wrote: post #84

slavik81 wrote: post #79

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That's simply inaccurate. Gerrymandering is specifically the redrawing of electoral districts in a purposefully unfair manner . It's commonly prevented by setting up independent commissions to do the redrawing of districts, rather than allowing the incumbent politicians to draw the lines directly. It's named after the former Governor of Massachusetts, Elbridge Gerry, who redrew the districts to ensure his party would…

You (and everybody else) don't understand what I mean because you haven't thought about it as much as I have. By what principle do you think districts should be drawn--they must be redrawn due to shifting population--so do you intend to draw exaggerated patterns to spread out minority opinions, or to clump them together? Or are you suggesting that you flip coins topologically? What if flipping coins results in a sala…

Post by astronautjones » Wed, Jun 08, 2016, 4:08 AM UTC

zzz157 wrote: post #56

Esau wrote: post #22

They take every tool we give them and abuse it. Fuck the FBI.

And they won't even arrest Hillary Clinton ;(

Post by oh_sigh » Wed, Jun 08, 2016, 4:11 AM UTC

EdHominem wrote: post #81

oh_sigh wrote: post #71

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If you're referring to the case I think you are, it is pretty clear that that "black kid" was actually a money runner for drug dealers. He claimed to have withdrawn the money from his bank, but could never provide any kind of evidence that he had done this.

And what case proved that assertion? Because in non-corrupt situations it's not your responsibility to explain yourself to not be robbed by the police.

Post by voxic11 » Wed, Jun 08, 2016, 4:29 AM UTC

wrsh07 wrote: post #30

marze wrote: post #2

You'd think terrorism/spy cases would be a small minority of overall cases. And not that hard to justify a warrant. Seems odd that they feel it is important to skip the warrant step for such cases. Why not require a warrant? The more checks and balances the better.

Is it a speed thing? Like do you think they're fighting with their own layers of bureaucracy? Is there a way to make obtaining warrants more transparent and straightforward? It honestly seems like they could design a better system that doesn't get rid of the checks, increases citizen trust, and solves their issues.

Post by c_c_c » Wed, Jun 08, 2016, 4:41 AM UTC

sailfast wrote: post #57

busterarm wrote: post #17

Is it just me or is the FBI a little out of control lately...

Every few weeks I remind myself that J. Edgar Hoover retired as director of the FBI in 1972 after running the organization for 48 years. Somebody that fundamental to the formation of an organization creates a culture.