Apple R&D Reveals a Pivot Is Coming

Post by shoyer » Thu, May 12, 2016, 7:37 AM UTC

Daneel_ wrote: post #95

realityking wrote: post #90

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Are you thinking of MacBooks? Because the grandparent talked about the Mac Pro who has two normal RJ45 ports: http://www.apple.com/mac-pro/specs/

...yes. Yes I am. Egg on face. The point still stands though, it's such a shame seeing the minimisation of ports on all systems these days. I can understand using standard ports (usb-c) for peripherals, but essentials such as Ethernet, display and several USB ports (whichever format) should remain built in.

Post by dingaling » Thu, May 12, 2016, 7:38 AM UTC

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Just imagine how much fun Ive would have designing an orbital space station. What's interesting is how aggressively they're moving into the car space if that's what's happening. The phone people had no idea, they got blindsided thinking Apple wouldn't have the guts, would never commit the money.

"Just imagine how much fun Ive would have designing an orbital space station." Unpossible. Space stations need to be displayed against a black background (albeit one punctuated with twinkling dots of light). Ive doesn't do black background.

Post by bidatzi » Thu, May 12, 2016, 7:48 AM UTC

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IIRC, Tesla has had only one profitable quarter since 2003, its founding. Last quarter, they had 1.4 Billion in cash and had a $280 Million shortfall. In ONE quarter. That's AFTER accounting for the +$350 Million-ish they brought in from the Model 3 pre-orders btw. I don't think they are going to repeat the +350ish thousand preorders at +$1000 cash per anytime soon.

But they are also growing by about 50% year over year (and more!). In 2015 they sold as many cars as Porsche sold in 2000, this year probably as much as Porsche in 2004. Tesla is spending every dollar they can get hold of into growth. The preorders for the Model 3 equal a possible revenue of 15 Billion alone.

Post by tcannon » Thu, May 12, 2016, 8:21 AM UTC

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> But there is just no way Apple is going to beat Google to market with that technology. Why? Apple is possibly the world's most effective company at synthesizing industrial design and software in premium devices sold to consumers. Google is a web/cloud services and advertising company. The reason presumably is that you can't see what Apple is doing in public, while Google has a car that still can't drive itself in t…

For one because there is no evidence of it. Apple are secretive but at some point you have to take a car out on an actual road to see how it fares. And get government permisison to do so. The fact that Apple has done neither leads me to suspect Google is further ahead.

Post by maccam94 » Thu, May 12, 2016, 8:43 AM UTC

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There is a big difference between loosing money because you build and sell individual cars at a loss, and investing in further capacity. They make money on the cars they build and sell, the overall loss comes from investing in the new factories and product lines. This should come as no surprise to anyone familiar with startups.

You're supposed to include capital expenses and depreciation in margins. Just because they're building factories doesn't mean they have higher margins. This is why startups underestimate their expenses.