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Civilization 6 is coming in October, with big changes

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Re: Civilization 6 is coming in October, with big changes

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Post by philwelch »

vinceguidry wrote: post #10

I would love to see a game that accurately reflects modern geopolitics. It would generate a world and run a history up to a certain point, at which you'd take control as head of state of a particular nation and conduct national affairs. Ideally, the game would be able to make conducting the affairs of a large global hegemon like the United States as interesting as playing a small kingdom beset on all sides. Sort of l…

The problem with the modern era is that it's kind of boring from a strategy game perspective. Eras that are boring from a strategy game perspective are the best eras to live in, so I'm not complaining, but a strategy game where the biggest challenge is to manage the Eurozone crisis or react to changing oil prices is not going to be nearly as popular as a strategy game where the biggest challenge is to win a World War.

Re: Civilization 6 is coming in October, with big changes

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Post by mdemare »

balls187 wrote: post #31
asimuvPR wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You and me, friend. Whatever happened to the MS division that published those games?

Rise of Nations 2

Oh yeah, totally! Surprised there hasn't been, thought it was a hit (for an RTS, that is)

Re: Civilization 6 is coming in October, with big changes

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Post by zyxley »

civilian wrote: post #57

I've bought every Civilization game except the very first one. They're good games, but the one I really love is Alpha Centauri. Maybe it's a nostalgia thing--- I got SMAC when I was in middle school. But the faction design was phenomenal, and it was great how you actually had to play the factions differently, and knowing the other factions meant you handled them differently. I started playing University of Planet and…

Civ 5 did a bit of experimenting with distinctly asymmetrical nations - for example, there's Venice, which can only directly control a single city. It feels like they completely forgot about that kind of thing when they got to BE, though.

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Post by mdemare »

tpeo wrote: post #77
civilian wrote: post #57

I've bought every Civilization game except the very first one. They're good games, but the one I really love is Alpha Centauri. Maybe it's a nostalgia thing--- I got SMAC when I was in middle school. But the faction design was phenomenal, and it was great how you actually had to play the factions differently, and knowing the other factions meant you handled them differently. I started playing University of Planet and…

SMAC also had 10/10 flavor text and setting overall. It's a game that has a lot of character.

Any of you fellow SMAC fans play Beyond Earth? Is it a spiritual successor?

Re: Civilization 6 is coming in October, with big changes

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Post by philwelch »

civilian wrote: post #57

I've bought every Civilization game except the very first one. They're good games, but the one I really love is Alpha Centauri. Maybe it's a nostalgia thing--- I got SMAC when I was in middle school. But the faction design was phenomenal, and it was great how you actually had to play the factions differently, and knowing the other factions meant you handled them differently. I started playing University of Planet and…

Here's a blog (that I found from an HN comment, interestingly!) where someone goes through and analyzes all the SMAC flavor text and writes about how well-done it was. It was interesting for me because there's a lot more depth than I realized when I first played SMAC, and the different factions all seemed to me more like caricatures than real philosophical viewpoints:

https://paeantosmac.wordpress.com

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Post by chx »

peteretep wrote: post #61
tcoppi wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The real interesting part of the game in my view is that conquest is no longer an option Isn't it though? Russia seemed to do OK with the conquest of Crimea. Anyway the suggestion of Europa Universalis is probably the closest you will get right now. If Paradox made a post-cold war sim I'd play the hell out of it, but I think it would be hard to do right and be interesting precisely because without real conquest and…

> Russia seemed to do OK with the conquest of Crimea While I'm no Putin apologist, Russian "conquest" of Crimea is a bit like hypothetical Éire conquest of Northern Ireland. You're certainly going to upset a lot of people, but it's also hardly black and white.

Hardly black and white? Care to provide us with some sources which provides the legal grounds for Russia annexing a part of Ukraine?

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Post by btreesOfSpring »

robertcorey wrote: post #54
scrumper wrote: post #43

> Stonehenge can only be built near stone. Found this a bit amusing given that the most likely quarry site for Stonehenge's material is a couple hundred miles away from Salisbury Plain, in Wales. (Not a nitpick at all, the restriction is a good idea, just thought it was quite funny given reality.)

Each tile in this game represents a large area of land.

some might say, "huge tracks of land."

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Post by zyxley »

geitiegg wrote: post #81
mthoms wrote: post #13

I wonder if there are any plans to improve game engine performance on OSX. It never seems like a high priority. I understand Windows is 80%[1] of the market but still. [1] Number pulled out of my butt - I've no idea the exact figure.

FWIW, Steam reports 3.57% of users running OS X in April [1]. [1] http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey

Low user numbers are something of a self-fulfilling prophecy if it's a bad port in the first place, though.

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Post by majormajor »

mfoy_ wrote: post #71
xlm1717 wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Civ 5 and Beyond Earth both have tablet modes. They work very well.

Tablet "mode" isn't too useful if I can't install it on my tablet in the first place.

It's the Surface Pro's killer app.
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