Stop fighting it, just stop using it.
If I don't use Facebook because of things like this, am I not fighting it?
Facebook sued for storing biometric data mined from photographs
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#102Earlier quoted context omitted.
Lax data privacy laws in the US (compared to Europe). Lobby your congressperson to fix it.
Congress is broke and the tech companies know it and optimize against this and will continue to make hay while the sun shines (i.e. before the US produces any effective consumer privacy legislation).
It doesn't cost anything to enact legislation. Congress is a sunk cost.
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#103I attended a talk by Stallman last year and he implored anyone who took a picture of him not to post it on Facebook. Now I can see why.
Staying off Facebook is not enough. Facebook could easily write a web crawler to find off-site photos of people tagged on Facebook. They could even create shadow accounts to track tagged people who don't have Facebook accounts. Even people not tagged could have shadow accounts seeded from Wikipedia or news photos.
Writing web crawlers and astroturfing to get all that data is hard. Facebook would more likely just buy that data straight from the source, since most other tech companies are similarly unscrupulous and happy to sell.
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The article says it is opt-in.
I saw that now too. Opt-in isn't enough here, the user of the messenger app should get consent from all folks on those pictures before auto-uploading anything. What another trove of data for FB. Disgusting.
Facebook lets you opt-out of being tagged, which is about all they can do. The photos don't being to you, plus they're not going to know that you're in a photo until after it gets uploaded.
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#105Facial recognition is really scary. This was recently demonstrated for Russia's Facebook, VKontakte, when a service appeared that let you look up people on that site by photo. So people started looking up the profiles of random subway passengers, outing sex workers to their families and friends, etc.
I really don't like having my picture taken anymore. You don't where it's going to end up. I also do wonder how much infrastructure would need to be added in a country that already has a lot of video surveillance (like the UK) to implement a "find this person" feature, where you could just feed it a photo and it would go looking at all camera feeds.
> I really don't like having my picture taken anymore. You don't where it's going to end up.
feeling similar sometimes but it's weird to be the "crazy" person in social settings to not wanting to take photos
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#106Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's called Photo Magic: "By recognizing your Facebook friends in the photos you take (just like when tagging or sharing photos on Facebook), Messenger can create a group thread for you to share the photos with those friends in just two taps." https://newsroom.fb.com/news/2015/12/messenger-adds-new-feat... http://www.theverge.com/2015/11/9/9696760/facebook-messenger... You can opt-out by turning off tagging suggestio…
I am still shocked about that feature. The messenger app is installed by millions of people. Does anyone know how the app does the friend recognition? Local on the phone or on FBs servers?
Facebooks servers. Phones could not be capable of doing that much facial recognition that quick. Plus that bandwidth to grab all your friends images to compare to would be a metric ton of images given some selfie-addicts.
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#107I had the strangest interaction with the Messenger app a few months ago. I was spending time with friends, and I took a few pictures of all of us (didn't send them through either FB or Messenger). A few hours later, messenger popped up a notification telling me something along the lines of "Hey, I see you took pictures today of . Want to send them to her?" Made me feel incredibly creeped out that FB would take my pho…
Deny the application permission to access your camera, photos, and contacts. That's a start.
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#108Earlier quoted context omitted.
That should be opt-in. What a fucked up feature. Edit: I don't give any of my friends consent to use that feature - yet the would still scan my face. How can this even be legal.
Lax data privacy laws in the US (compared to Europe). Lobby your congressperson to fix it.
You don't need to take it to the congress; just stop using the services of a company whose practices you don't agree with. If more people would do this, maybe the company will get the message and change its practices.
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#109I had the strangest interaction with the Messenger app a few months ago. I was spending time with friends, and I took a few pictures of all of us (didn't send them through either FB or Messenger). A few hours later, messenger popped up a notification telling me something along the lines of "Hey, I see you took pictures today of . Want to send them to her?" Made me feel incredibly creeped out that FB would take my pho…
Creeped out that FB used the permissions that you gave them? I am guilty too, those permissions are too wide...
Re: Facebook sued for storing biometric data mined from photographs
#110Earlier quoted context omitted.
Lax data privacy laws in the US (compared to Europe). Lobby your congressperson to fix it.
You don't need to take it to the congress; just stop using the services of a company whose practices you don't agree with. If more people would do this, maybe the company will get the message and change its practices.
Pragmatically, its easier for me to hold congresspeoples' feet to the fire.