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How the “what’s your current salary?” question hurts the gender pay gap

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Re: How the “what’s your current salary?” question hurts the gender pay gap

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Post by moron4hire »

chrisfosterelli wrote: post #93
moron4hire wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps one of the reasons this aggregate category of "women" doesn't want "these jobs" is because of an expectation of harassment or bias on the job. It's kind of hard to want to progress anywhere that is openly or passively aggressive towards you. I don't think "they just don't want the jobs" should be considered the end of the story or any sort of proof that sexism isn't happening. Regardless, even if it were, it…

> Perhaps one of the reasons this aggregate category of "women" doesn't want "these jobs" is because of an expectation of harassment or bias on the job. It's kind of hard to want to progress anywhere that is openly or passively aggressive towards you. Sure, perhaps. While we are throwing out guesses, perhaps it is because women consider other things in life more of a priority than achieving career power. When asked t…

You're certainly didn't seem like you were taking up the "we need to do something about decision in the workplace" position. Seemed more like your taking up the position that nothing should be done.

Re: How the “what’s your current salary?” question hurts the gender pay gap

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Post by kelukelugames »

hubb wrote: post #33

though predictable, it's disappointing to read HN's collective response to posts like this

The good news is these posts get flagged off the frontpage quickly so we might miss it and not click into the comment section.

Re: How the “what’s your current salary?” question hurts the gender pay gap

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Post by zardgiv »

tomp wrote: post #85
nwah1 wrote: post #59

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Hmm more like "those awful males are so competitive in pursuing career advancement. Maybe testosterone has some sort of effect."

I think a lot of it has to do with sexual competition. Men know that women are (in general) attracted to power, so they spend effort on earning money and becoming more powerful. Conversely, women know that men are attracted to beauty and youth, so they spend time and money on trying to look younger and prettier.

Is there a citation for women in general being attracted to power? Or perhaps you're just reinforcing gender stereotypes that are convenient for the narrative you're spinning?

Re: How the “what’s your current salary?” question hurts the gender pay gap

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Post by tomp »

zardgiv wrote: post #103
tomp wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think a lot of it has to do with sexual competition. Men know that women are (in general) attracted to power, so they spend effort on earning money and becoming more powerful. Conversely, women know that men are attracted to beauty and youth, so they spend time and money on trying to look younger and prettier.

Is there a citation for women in general being attracted to power? Or perhaps you're just reinforcing gender stereotypes that are convenient for the narrative you're spinning?

Not trying to spin a narrative (I don't have an agenda), this is just based on my personal observations, both of people around me, and the society as a whole (famous people, media, movies, ...).

Re: How the “what’s your current salary?” question hurts the gender pay gap

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Post by zardgiv »

tomp wrote: post #104
zardgiv wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there a citation for women in general being attracted to power? Or perhaps you're just reinforcing gender stereotypes that are convenient for the narrative you're spinning?

Not trying to spin a narrative (I don't have an agenda), this is just based on my personal observations, both of people around me, and the society as a whole (famous people, media, movies, ...).

I mean, when you say that "women (in general) are attracted to [X]," since youre ralking about half of the world's population, that's a pretty extraordinary claim and requires extraordinary evidence to support it.

Re: How the “what’s your current salary?” question hurts the gender pay gap

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Post by tomp »

zardgiv wrote: post #105
tomp wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not trying to spin a narrative (I don't have an agenda), this is just based on my personal observations, both of people around me, and the society as a whole (famous people, media, movies, ...).

I mean, when you say that "women (in general) are attracted to [X]," since youre ralking about half of the world's population, that's a pretty extraordinary claim and requires extraordinary evidence to support it.

I guess it's more like a working hypothesis, based on the (circumstantial and anecdotal) evidence that I've collected so far. It's by no means enough evidence, so I'm open to changing my opinion (given conflicting evidence).

Re: How the “what’s your current salary?” question hurts the gender pay gap

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Post by eli »

technocodes wrote: post #68
eli wrote: post #26

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Is there something about the male gender that makes one a better investment banker? If not, how do you explain why that is in the first place?

Women flat out don't want to do it. Some do, but not many.

I flat out don't believe that.
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