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WSJ also has a political agenda, which requires a second source for any story in there, from the other point of view.
What about Reuters and Associated Press?
Reuters is not US. AP is pretty good for big news, yea.
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#102Earlier quoted context omitted.
WSJ also has a political agenda, which requires a second source for any story in there, from the other point of view.
So do CNN, MSNBC, NYT, WaPo, Times, NPR, RollingStone, etc etc etc. No really sure what my point is... but having bias is the norm, not the exception.
They're not biased when they agree with my point of view.
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#103What does it say about the world we live in where blogs do more basic journalism than CNN? All that one would have had to do is read the report actually provided. I don't think I'm being too extreme when I say that, apart from maybe PBS, there is no reputable source of news in America. If you don't believe me, pick a random story, watch it as it gets rewritten a million times through Reuters, then check back on the f…
> What does it say about the world we live in where blogs do more basic journalism than CNN? To me it says that people who thought the Internet would kill journalism were wrong.
But that doesn't follow at all. Others have pointed out (in this thread) it's possible that old-media outlets have become sloppy _because_ the sloppy new-media outlets are out-producing them and gaining a major share of attention. I don't think this data point supports either conclusion more than the other.
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#104What does it say about the world we live in where blogs do more basic journalism than CNN? All that one would have had to do is read the report actually provided. I don't think I'm being too extreme when I say that, apart from maybe PBS, there is no reputable source of news in America. If you don't believe me, pick a random story, watch it as it gets rewritten a million times through Reuters, then check back on the f…
I'm wondering when there ever was a golden age of journalism. In the 80's, I was working in an office building that had a natural gas leak for hours and then blew the roof off. I taped the news broadcasts that evening on multiple channels. Each TV news anchor recounted a different set of facts, all them wrong. It was an eye-opener for me. And it wasn't even a case of any agenda, it was just laziness and doing as litt…
Knoll's Law of Media Accuracy: "Everything you read in the newspapers is absolutely true except for the rare story of which you happen to have firsthand knowledge."
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This article turned me off the WSJ: http://www.wsj.com/articles/price-tag-of-bernie-sanders-prop... 18 Trillion -- yikes! It's not until the 5th paragraph that we find out that this includes health insurance and that me and my employer wouldn't have to shell out for that anymore. Does it save me money overall? A question not asked. But they do make a big deal about that number and how alarmed they are at it, even if…
How could it save you money? 18 Trillion is the entire US GDP. It's literally the cost of all our products made annually in the US combined. edit: oops. Its 18 trillion over a decade. So 10% our GDP.
so, 7% less of our gdp than we spend on healthcare right now.
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#106What does it say about the world we live in where blogs do more basic journalism than CNN? All that one would have had to do is read the report actually provided. I don't think I'm being too extreme when I say that, apart from maybe PBS, there is no reputable source of news in America. If you don't believe me, pick a random story, watch it as it gets rewritten a million times through Reuters, then check back on the f…
Even PBS and NPR while very good, push narratives these days. Same goes for wikipedia. Journalism is dead and nobody seems to care about facts anymore.
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This line of argument really needs to be toned down. While it's obviously true that papers like the WSJ, NYT, WashPo, etc. have influential partisan editorial boards, their newsrooms are filled with reporters and editors of various political leanings. More importantly, these reporters are among the best in the country and do their very best to find and report the truth in an unbiased fashion. That's what makes these…
This article turned me off the WSJ: http://www.wsj.com/articles/price-tag-of-bernie-sanders-prop... 18 Trillion -- yikes! It's not until the 5th paragraph that we find out that this includes health insurance and that me and my employer wouldn't have to shell out for that anymore. Does it save me money overall? A question not asked. But they do make a big deal about that number and how alarmed they are at it, even if…
Although that was "damaging" because many quoted it, it wasn't nearly as biased was Washington Post was when it did this:
http://fair.org/home/washington-post-ran-16-negative-stories...
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Information wants to be free, so it isn't worth paying journalists for the time to do this.
I hope you're ironic, because that statement doesn't make any sense.
To state things explicitly: "It is commonly believed that 'information wants to be free, therefore I should not pay for it', and so people are opposed to paying for journalism. As a consequence, organizations that exist to do the sort of vetting that the parent talks about find it harder and harder to get revenue from that activity. Therefore, they not only have no incentive to pay people to do that, they in fact risk going bankrupt if they do that."
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What about Reuters and Associated Press?
Reuters is not US. AP is pretty good for big news, yea.
AP has its biases, in particular they are seen as anti-Israel with the whole saga of changing a headline from "Israeli police shoot man in east Jerusalem." to finally "Palestinian kills baby at Jerusalem station." being one of the better know headlines. The original headline remained on many sites.
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#110This hits the nail on the head in calling out news reporting sites who don't fact check or truthfully report a topic. Its incredible how far from the actually story the Apple recycled gold headline deviates and really makes you wonder if citing so called reputable sources is even valid in some cases.
Somewhat before (but not completely before) the crazy 24/7 internet-news-cycle started, I was interviewed by the Wall Street Journal about an activity I participated in.
For about two days after it was published, I got calls from various lesser-known news outlets, and in the end, I did two more interviews, one with a local television station, and one with a very small radio talk show.
I didn't feel that any of the three organizations got the nuances and details right in their final stories. The WSJ got the big picture mostly right, but made it look like I took a different angle than I did; the local news station intentionally omitted important facts to drive some humor. The radio program was a live interview, but moved on to the next question so quickly that I didn't have a chance to give much detail.
I don't think any of this was avoiding fact-checking, or misrepresenting the truth of my story. But accurate reporting is very hard, and no news outlet gets it right.
Ever since then, I take every story I see with a grain of salt. The main point might be what the subject thinks, but at the very least it is missing details and nuance.
This leads me to treat the subject of any news story with a lot more compassion than it may seem like they deserve on the surface.