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Re: GitHub is down

#101

Post by TeMPOraL »

eric001 wrote: post #48
justsaysmthng wrote: post #33

I hope the world realizes that clouds are not just fluffy white things in the blue sky, but can create destructive storms too, with wind, rain and so on. Make sure your infrastructure is ready to weather such storms - have local backups and fallbacks, make sure your code is available even if github (or the Internet) goes down. The more I hear 'cloud', the more I try to depend only on tools that work offline.

Metaphors like that only makes it even more confusing. It's a marketing scam, let's call it for what it is. Servers. They are servers.

It's one of the most successful marketing scams I've ever seen - the whole tech world bought it, and here I was thinking at least engineers are mostly bullshit-proof.

Re: GitHub is down

#103

Post by progx »

Piskvorrr wrote: post #37
touristtam wrote: post #11

You'd think by now GH would have a more resilient system in place ... I mean it isn't like it is the first time it happens to them. Thanks for the downvote, my hearts goes to you. :/

...which is why we switched to a local instance of Gitlab: stuff still works, no matter whether Github is in business, whether their servers are up, or even whether our internet pipes are up. CLOUDCLOUDCLOUD!!!

And when you local instance did not work becaus of a disk failure? BACKUPBACKUPBACKUP!!!

Re: GitHub is down

#104

Post by Filligree »

akerro wrote: post #76
maccard wrote: post #71

The common complaint is that when github goes down so do issue trackers/project management/docs etc. What are the equivalent alternatives for these systems that are distributed, so tolerant to downtime. If you are in a situation that you're using a DVCS but relying on centralised everything else, and saying that you're unable to work because your Issue tracker/CI server is down, have you really gained anything over t…

You can setup gitlab with clones, if one server goes down, second has a copy. You know, git is a distributed system, unlike github.

Github is a distributed system, with a unifying front-end. The DDoS just ends up targeting all of it.

How do you propose to stop that with your proposal?

Re: GitHub is down

#105

Post by kuschku »

Sir_Substance wrote: post #31
kuschku wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Downvotes are most likely because – if you are already using git – you should just be able to switch over to a local repo?

Depends how his deployment pipeline is plumbed in. If he's dependent on Travis for builds (for example), he can't just switch.

Depending on services from others for your own business without having a SLA is just a disaster waiting to happen.

Along the lines of "two is one, one is none", anything that you don’t own or where you don’t have a SLA has to be considered not existing for a business.

Re: GitHub is down

#106

Post by TeMPOraL »

blowski wrote: post #84
eric001 wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Metaphors like that only makes it even more confusing. It's a marketing scam, let's call it for what it is. Servers. They are servers.

There can be difference between hosting on bare metal boxes and hosting on cloud providers. If you are connecting different services (message queues, databases, storage, transcoding), and spinning up and down instances based on current demand and spot prices, then cloud hosting is totally different. On the other hand, if you are just renting a couple of dedicated cloud instances, then yeah - they're just (virtualized…

Yeah. The problem is, "cloud" now means both of the things you described and then some. Probably the best definition corresponding to present usage of this word would be "not on localhost".

(Because yeah, if I host a Dropbox clone on my Raspberry Pi sitting on the wardrobe, I have my files "in the cloud" now.)

We need a new word for automated, dynamic allocation/deallocation/management of remote instances for various services. Something that would differentiate it from buying a VPS.

Re: GitHub is down

#107

Post by TeMPOraL »

colinbartlett wrote: post #69

It's interesting to me to see all the services that depend on or integrate with GitHub in some way, as they all have problems at times like this. My side project https://statusgator.com shows currently a dozen different services all posting warnings or down notices on their status pages. It's mostly CI services and the like, all which break in some way when GitHub is down.

> It's mostly CI services and the like, all which break in some way when GitHub is down.

It boggles my mind. If you're not adding a new dependency to the project, your CI server should never hit GitHub when doing builds. Who sets those things up without local cache?

Re: GitHub is down

#108

Post by rootlocus »

eric001 wrote: post #48
justsaysmthng wrote: post #33

I hope the world realizes that clouds are not just fluffy white things in the blue sky, but can create destructive storms too, with wind, rain and so on. Make sure your infrastructure is ready to weather such storms - have local backups and fallbacks, make sure your code is available even if github (or the Internet) goes down. The more I hear 'cloud', the more I try to depend only on tools that work offline.

Metaphors like that only makes it even more confusing. It's a marketing scam, let's call it for what it is. Servers. They are servers.

We have a sticker for this: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CVKwDixXAAAmRaI.jpg

Re: GitHub is down

#109

Post by TeMPOraL »

random55643 wrote: post #95
dtech wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because your comment adds nothing.

It adds something. It shows an example of an actual person affected by this. Yours here, however, I'm not sure what that adds :)

It shows an example of someone who caught the "why downvotes?" bait, and enables a comment like yours.

INB4: my comment shows an example of someone going meta.

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