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How to Start Running

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Re: How to Start Running

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How about the front squat? I've heard it's better for the back, balance and arm training... how about its impact on running?

As my coach would say, stop over-thinking it. Just pick up the damn bar and put it down. Either or both are fine. The overhead squat is also excellent, but vastly more difficult.

"Just pick up the damn bar and put it down" is a great way to get injured.

Re: How to Start Running

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For me this is an actual example where apps helped me a ton. I started running a few years ago, nothing exceptional but I try to go consistently twice a week. I track with runkeeper and this helps me with motivation, including seeing my friends that "just completed a run".

This year I was surprised by the "year of running" [1], so I took the challenge. Coincidentally today I'm celebrating my 100 miles this year :)

I also built "run with mark" [2], again to help me with motivation... and counting. Coincidentally again, I was updating it right now, when I saw this post (going to build a geo map with balls where I run).

[1] https://www.facebook.com/zuck/posts/10102579357179331

[2] https://github.com/runwithmark/runwithmark.github.io

Re: How to Start Running

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He said static stretching is bad, and it absolutely is. Athletes do dynamic stretching.

What's the difference?

Static stretching is probably what you think of when you think of 'stretching', holding a pose for 10-30 seconds. Dynamic stretching is when you move around. Lunges, jumping, calf raises are all examples of dynamic stretching. A quick google for 'runner dynamic stretches' would be informative.

The important part is that static stretching before workouts has been linked to increased risk of injury, and lower performance. Stretching post workout and on non-workout days is fine.

Re: How to Start Running

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So much bad advice. (1) Actually it does matter how and where (relative to your body) you land your foot. Contrary to the article, many people do need to fix their "natural" form and/or get shoes that help them avoid pronation, both to avoid injury and to increase the enjoyment that will help them stick with it. (2) Similarly, the article's advice about stretching is way out of date. It's now consensus that static st…

"but if you're running in crowded times or places it's irresponsible to deafen yourself" Odd that every car sold today is marketed on the basis of being quiet inside and having a deafening sound system. Why is it so important for runners to have their senses of hearing? So that they don't inadvertently get murdered by the functionally deaf in cars?

although it of course also may happen in normal traffic, dogs, children, bikes, and other joggers suddenly appearing in your path can happen a few dozen times on a long run, if you're in a crowded place.

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Same thing happened to me, though in my case it was less of naturally bad technique and more that I have naturally weak joints that I tried using without sufficient other supporting muscles for stabilization. Missing a few http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RequiredSecondary... . Now it's going to take a year or two, maybe more, to get the joints back to where they were so I can try again.

I had to go through a few cycles of getting shin-splints, stopping for a while, then starting again. Each time I could run further before the splints. Maybe it's technique, but I thought it was my tendons/bone needing to strengthen after endured stress.

Shin splints is commonly caused by tight calf muscles and tendons. Try foam rolling your calves and dynamic stretching before a run (google 'runner dynamic calf stretch').

It can also be technique, or shoes. But calves are a good place to start.

Re: How to Start Running

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post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He said static stretching is bad, and it absolutely is. Athletes do dynamic stretching.

What's the difference?

"Dynamic" means you keep moving. All of your squats, lunges, jogging in place, and so on are dynamic. "Static" means you hold a position. Your classic runner's stretch is static, as are the various "hold your toes" stretches in any position. The danger is only with static stretches prior to exercise, which can lead to over-extension and injury. The benefit of dynamic stretching before exercise is still kind of debatable. Some swear by it, others are more skeptical. Just about everyone agrees that both static and dynamic stretches after exercise, while everything's warmed up and maximally pliable, is generally beneficial.

FWIW, I don't do any pre-exercise stretching. On the other hand, I practically always do at least one kind of stretching after every run - simple ankle rotations in both directions with one leg across the other knee while seated. I really notice the difference later in the day and/or next time I run. If particular muscles feel sore, I'll throw in one or two other kinds of stretches. That minimal approach has kept me out of trouble despite running more even than most other runners - consistently five or six days a week in every kind of weather. Just an anecdote, not data, but seemed worth sharing anyway.

Re: How to Start Running

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post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As my coach would say, stop over-thinking it. Just pick up the damn bar and put it down. Either or both are fine. The overhead squat is also excellent, but vastly more difficult.

"Just pick up the damn bar and put it down" is a great way to get injured.

This post is true yet uncharitable. The post explicitly mentions a coach, which would lead a reasonable person to assume proper form. Yes, have proper form, but if you're not doing any kind of squats, doing either front or back properly is better than not doing anything.

Re: How to Start Running

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same thing happened to me, though in my case it was less of naturally bad technique and more that I have naturally weak joints that I tried using without sufficient other supporting muscles for stabilization. Missing a few http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RequiredSecondary... . Now it's going to take a year or two, maybe more, to get the joints back to where they were so I can try again.

I had to go through a few cycles of getting shin-splints, stopping for a while, then starting again. Each time I could run further before the splints. Maybe it's technique, but I thought it was my tendons/bone needing to strengthen after endured stress.

Everyone has their favorite shin-splint exercise. The one that works for me is one that I've rarely seen mentioned, so I'll share it here. After your run, sit normally and place one ankle across the other knee, then simply rotate your ankle in as big a circle as you can in both directions a dozen or so times. Repeat with the other ankle, of course. ;) For fun, you can put your fingers on your shin while you're doing the rotations, and really feel those muscles moving around. A simple thing, and I've never gotten shin splints nearly as much as others seem to, but I find it helps with that as well as other common kinds of post-run soreness.

Re: How to Start Running

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Which is more important to you: "going hard" or being safe and considerate to those around you? ETA: good point about stretching before vs. stretching after, though. I should have mentioned that, and so should the OP.

It's not an all-or-nothing decision. I run with music but I keep the volume low enough that I can hear what's around me.

It's not all or nothing, but the two do often come into conflict. I'll bet hardly anybody reading this runs only by themselves on empty roads or trails. When such contention does occur, I think it's pretty clear that safety and consideration have to take priority. Isolating and distracting yourself with audio, even at low volume, is contrary to that. Also, I seriously doubt that anyone who uses music to "pump it up" and "go hard" is staying at low volume.

Re: How to Start Running

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So much bad advice. (1) Actually it does matter how and where (relative to your body) you land your foot. Contrary to the article, many people do need to fix their "natural" form and/or get shoes that help them avoid pronation, both to avoid injury and to increase the enjoyment that will help them stick with it. (2) Similarly, the article's advice about stretching is way out of date. It's now consensus that static st…

> (1) ... Contrary to the article, many people do need to fix their "natural" form

I'll second that. I'm not a natural athlete. I have very poor kinesthesia (our 6th sense). I accidentally walk into doorframes as I try to pass through. It wasn't until my wife told me that I realized my originally learned running pattern was bad for my joints.

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