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Re: Google Fiber Phone

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I get that Google is doing this (Fiber) in order to improve internet service, which is in it's best interest. But I can't help but feeling like there is some other goal here.

Profit?

This is easily 3x their wholesale cost to provide this service, so it is pure profit.

Re: Google Fiber Phone

#103
post #6

A landline phone service seems a bit anachronistic, but there is a place for it. The future of telephony is here, but it sucks. Many here on HN probably don't even remember this, but phone calls actually used to be intelligible. Before cell phones and VOIP, before packet-switching and aggressive digital compression, calls traveled over Ma Bell's glorious circuit-switched network. You could actually understand what pe…

This is complete tin-foil-hat territory, but I am going to say it anyway.

I used to travel internationally a fair bit to rural areas of SE Asia...

Places without wifi and cell.

I did feel different. I have no way to prove it was anything but placebo/mind -- but I did notice it.

Would be wonderful to see a study on this, even if to prove me a loon... but per your comment; I dont mind having a fully wired setup as opposed to all wireless - I'd love to see if there is any validity to this feeling.

Re: Google Fiber Phone

#104
post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's amazing to remember how crystal clear phone calls used to be. I wonder if there's a niche for the first service willing to use more bytes and sacrifice efficiency in the name of analog-era call quality.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wideband_audio and more specific to cellular phones: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adaptive_Multi-Rate_Wideband Search for "HD Voice" from the big cellular companies in the US. It usually requires handset support.

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Re: Google Fiber Phone

#105
post #6

A landline phone service seems a bit anachronistic, but there is a place for it. The future of telephony is here, but it sucks. Many here on HN probably don't even remember this, but phone calls actually used to be intelligible. Before cell phones and VOIP, before packet-switching and aggressive digital compression, calls traveled over Ma Bell's glorious circuit-switched network. You could actually understand what pe…

It's amazing to remember how crystal clear phone calls used to be. I wonder if there's a niche for the first service willing to use more bytes and sacrifice efficiency in the name of analog-era call quality.

But telephony has always been band-limited to 3 kHz, even in the 'good old days' of analog lines. Voice quality over a transatlantic link compounded that with delays, static and fading. If you needed high quality audio over the phone system, it _was_ possible to book a 'music line' for things like outside broadcasts that did not have the aggressive filtering, though.

Re: Google Fiber Phone

#106
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is crazy, because I'm pretty much too young to remember a time when phones ever sounded good. The reason I prefer text to call isn't because I don't like to talk to people - I've just always found call quality to be utterly trash. Maybe this is part of the reason the younger generations prefer texting.

The superior sound of vinyl is making a comeback as it is 'discovered' by a younger generation. Can landline's be that far behind?

If you care about audio fidelity, as opposed to the "vinyl-ness" of the sound, vinyl is worse:

http://www.mcelhearn.com/do-vinyl-records-sound-better-than-...

http://wiki.hydrogenaud.io/index.php?title=Myths_%28Vinyl%29

Obviously, if you want the most vinyl sound around, vinyl is the only way to get that. However, if you want maximum fidelity to the original audio source, vinyl has inherent limitations later formats do not.

Re: Google Fiber Phone

#107
post #6

A landline phone service seems a bit anachronistic, but there is a place for it. The future of telephony is here, but it sucks. Many here on HN probably don't even remember this, but phone calls actually used to be intelligible. Before cell phones and VOIP, before packet-switching and aggressive digital compression, calls traveled over Ma Bell's glorious circuit-switched network. You could actually understand what pe…

Also anyone over 60 or so (super generalization) wants a landline. For evidence I give you my mother, my in-laws, and several parents of friends. Said friends, like me, would switch their parents to Google Fiber in a hot minute with or without their consent. So a landline offering makes sense, as without it, there's a sticking point. This helps make it more frictionless.

I think most people in their 60's will be long gone before they have a chance to buy cheap gigabit fiber with phone service (whether from Google or another provider).

Re: Google Fiber Phone

#108
post #6

A landline phone service seems a bit anachronistic, but there is a place for it. The future of telephony is here, but it sucks. Many here on HN probably don't even remember this, but phone calls actually used to be intelligible. Before cell phones and VOIP, before packet-switching and aggressive digital compression, calls traveled over Ma Bell's glorious circuit-switched network. You could actually understand what pe…

Worse yet, you could talk at the same time as the other person! Carrying on a conversation with my mom is like talking at that fancy riot mike from a few years ago [0]. If you don't have a perfectly negotiated rhythm, you're gonna talk over the other person, cutting them off, missing part of their sentence, and then begin a flood of repeat/acks before starting again. It's bloody idiotic, and my mom is convinced she's…

I agree that latency causes people to cut each other off. But I've not found fidelity to be a problem. FaceTime, Skype and WeChat voice fidelity beats POTS for me.

Re: Google Fiber Phone

#109
post #6

A landline phone service seems a bit anachronistic, but there is a place for it. The future of telephony is here, but it sucks. Many here on HN probably don't even remember this, but phone calls actually used to be intelligible. Before cell phones and VOIP, before packet-switching and aggressive digital compression, calls traveled over Ma Bell's glorious circuit-switched network. You could actually understand what pe…

I wonder why they can't fix the caller id problem? Why is it so easy for telemarketers to use fake information? I've basically moved to a telephone whitelist -- if you aren't in my contacts list, you are going straight to voicemail.

"I wonder why they can't fix the caller id problem?"

SMTP is much newer than the phone system. We haven't solved the problem of fake emails, because there's no way to get every mail domain and server to fully support DMARC and SPF.

Now, imagine the same problem, but with a load of old analogue equipment. That's why there's no clear path to secure caller ID.

Re: Google Fiber Phone

#110
post #96

Apparently no one actually fucking read the page. > ON-THE-GO >Get calls on your mobile phone. Stay connected no matter where you are. Have Fiber Phone ring your landline when you're home or your mobile when you're onthe-go. This isn't about landlines at all.

What? This is literally all about landlines. A minor feature is that you can redirect the landline service to your mobile phone, which is a feature that has been included in most landline services since mobile existed.
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