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2016 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results

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Re: 2016 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results

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Am I really that much of an outlier in loving coffeescript? I know a lot of people don't like the extra translation effort to debugging, and some aren't fond of significant whitespace, but I'm surprised that that's enough to make it into the top 5 most dreaded . Is there something else I'm missing?

Right there with you. I was generally aware (mostly from HN) that it seemed less popular than when I started using it -- but _dread_? Surprising. I really enjoy it.

Re: 2016 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results

#102
From the looks of it Ruby has really lost it shine.

It doesn't appear at all in the "most popular technologies, not even in back-end, and it lost 6% in "trending tech". It also doesn't appear in any other metrics.

Is it really a trend or that SO's community is not representative of Ruby practitioners ?

Re: 2016 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results

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post #85
post #76

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Cool story, bro, spread the gospel. Better keep people from easy access to programming and enjoy the beautiful software we had in the 90ies.

The same phenomena existed in the 90s. Enterprise and corporate bureaucracy will always be the main driver in terms of which skill sets appear most in-demand. They have been since the dawn of computing. The modern misguided infatuation with Javascript is just another boring chapter in the same repeated story. In 15 years it will be something else. My point isn't to convince anyone of anything. Indeed, most people who…

I would suspect that many of the grunt Javascript jobs would have been grunt VB6 jobs 20 years ago.

Re: 2016 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results

#105
post #4

> for the third year in a row, "full-stack developer" was the most common response [for occupation] Might be a loaded question, but doesn't full-stack mean just "web developer"? From the survey, "Full-stack developers are comfortable coding with 5 to 6 major languages or frameworks (vs. 4 for everyone else)" -- with knowing a bit of Wordpress that's fairly easy to collect: php, sql, html, javascript, css. Done. Or fu…

It is a matter of self-identification. I take the phrase with a large dose of irony. If someone calls themselves a full-stack developer, I assume they mean "JS/CSS/HTML/ /SQL" and this is especially likely in this case, since it's a SO poll. But I still want some sense of awareness of the many layers on which web systems rest. "Oh you're a full-stack developer? Great! In this job interview we will be designing a new…

I would identify myself as full stack web developer, but the problems you list (apart from negotiations) sound interesting to me... What does that make me? :)

Re: 2016 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results

#106
post #88

Am I really that much of an outlier in loving coffeescript? I know a lot of people don't like the extra translation effort to debugging, and some aren't fond of significant whitespace, but I'm surprised that that's enough to make it into the top 5 most dreaded . Is there something else I'm missing?

My reaction to CoffeeScript over time:

CoffeeScript is shit, CoffeeScript is ok, CoffeeScript is great, CoffeeScript is ok, CoffeeScript is shit

Re: 2016 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results

#107
post #60

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I see it kind of like this: 10 years ago when I had my first official job post college we needed some tools for interacting with our manufacturing data sets. I opened up Visual Studio and created some Windows applications and installers. Then we deployed a web service written in Java (because at the time any web server we had was *nix) to create some additional functionality and hooked the desktop apps up to it. Then…

I have no doubt that the web will eat desktop application (maybe native app as well at some point). However, they are plenty fields from machine learning, to robotics that are also likely on the rise that would require some SW development skills. Also, as mentioned by d0lph, I believe the high churn in web technology makes more people relying on SO, compared to let's say someone coding in C99. But my view is probably…

>I have no doubt that the web will eat desktop application

I hope not.

There's nothing like a well-done desktop GUI EXE for richness of UI / UX. And desktop GUI apps can still connect to back-end services over HTTP or other technologies.

Re: 2016 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results

#108
"95% of developers identify as either a Developer, Programmer, Engineer, Senior Developer or Full-Stack Developer. Embedded Application Developers are most likely to identify as Engineers. Graphics Programmers are most likely to identify as Programmers.

But Developer is the runaway choice here. It’s our top choice, too."

Good. This has always been a very silly thing to have to argue about. The people who care a lot about this topic are saying more about themselves by caring so much than any of the above titles would say about what they do.

Re: 2016 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results

#109
post #94

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Perhaps not in the limitations of the DOM, but how we deal with it is changing.

Their arguments are just as valid as then. Web interfaces will never be as rich as desktop ones. Cloud connected desktop applications will gain a lot of momentum going forward.

Right, roughly what I said in a parallel comment. Good to see others think so too.

Re: 2016 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results

#110

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For Windows, Notepad++ fits nicely for situations where "I need more than Notepad, but less than an IDE". It's a great example of the a well done pieces of free software on Windows. I've tried Emacs, Vim, Atom, Code, and Sublime, and none of them beat N++.

Multi-cursor in N++ is not even close to Sublime one.

This advanced editing thing has completely evaded me. I'm a long time Windows dev and never got to terms with emacs due to non standard (i.e. non Windows) default keybindings etc.

The editors and IDEs I do use likely all have very advanced text editing ability but I just never reach for them! Not once have I felt "now I'd really like 3 cursors". What are the normal use cases? Maybe I'm leaning on auto-formatting and refactorings more that lets me do things you would otherwise do with e.g regexes, multiple cursors?

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