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WikiLeaks reveals the NSA spied on Berlusconi and his closest advisors

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Re: WikiLeaks reveals the NSA spied on Berlusconi and his closest advisors

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Post by qrendel »

ascorbic wrote: post #69
qrendel wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Considering they recently chose to completely ignore the UN opinion on his "arbitrary detention," on top of everything else in the past - false rape accusations, ignoring his asylum status - I don't see what more he really has to lose. What are the odds he possibly gets out of this without torture, assassination, or life in prison? They've done everything possible to turn him into an actual enemy, rather than the edi…

Great, you know they're false accusations! I'm assuming you weren't there, so you must have some good evidence. I hope you've handed it over to the defence team.

Go read the actual timeline of the allegations against him. The entire thing is so one-sided in favor of Assange that it's effectively government propaganda to even pretend he's anything other than a political prisoner. The prosecutor originally in charge of the case actually stated that "the conduct alleged ... disclosed no crime at all and that file would be closed." The woman he's accused of raping said, quote, she was "railroaded by police and others around her" and that "it was the police who made up the charges." Among loads of other evidence in his favor.

It's disingenuous to pretend like we're all just in the dark about what really happened, that he might have actually committed rape and that's what any of this is about.

Re: WikiLeaks reveals the NSA spied on Berlusconi and his closest advisors

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gadders wrote: post #100
tobltobs wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't your comment a good example for "Moral Relativism" itself?

No. Moral relativism would be saying "everyone is equally good; we shouldn't judge them because they don't believe in democracy; all cultures are equally valid".

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Re: WikiLeaks reveals the NSA spied on Berlusconi and his closest advisors

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Post by ascorbic »

qrendel wrote: post #101
ascorbic wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Great, you know they're false accusations! I'm assuming you weren't there, so you must have some good evidence. I hope you've handed it over to the defence team.

Go read the actual timeline of the allegations against him. The entire thing is so one-sided in favor of Assange that it's effectively government propaganda to even pretend he's anything other than a political prisoner. The prosecutor originally in charge of the case actually stated that "the conduct alleged ... disclosed no crime at all and that file would be closed." The woman he's accused of raping said, quote , s…

The Supreme Court says otherwise, and ruled that the accusations would be considered a crime in the UK. I am not a lawyer. You may be, I don't know, but I'm willing to bet that you're less qualified to rule on what is a crime than the UK Supreme Court.

Re: WikiLeaks reveals the NSA spied on Berlusconi and his closest advisors

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Post by samstave »

dang wrote: post #53
samstave wrote: post #30

While I think that your analogy is fantastic - I want to rebut it... not to rebut you, but to the intelligence community. FUCK YOU intelligence community. I fucking hate you. We are suffering from the parasite of tyranny on the human condition. fuck that condition. Humans exist as both an individual and as a community - this is the binary spectrum we exist in. The challenge is in how we understand the differences bet…

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11156136 and marked it off-topic.

Do I have the record for detachments? ;-)

I love you.

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