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Re: Europe Remotely – EU-friendly remote dev jobs

#101

Post by ameen »

saiya-jin wrote: post #94
ameen wrote: post #60

As an Indian, I doubt I'll qualify for work in these companies. The problem for non-EU, non-US devs wishing to work remotely [1] is that most companies can't legally employ you or aren't willing to jump through bureaucratic hoops just to employ you. I'd subscribed to a remote-only jobs board and the issue was that either I didn't qualify for work due to my residency, or the company never really responded. I would say…

a rather selfish approach to keep things polite. - you want us to be more xenophobic, but in the same time steal local jobs for yourself, with our pay, but your local expenses. just WOW - there are specific laws to prevent what you want to do, at least in some cases. it's called protection of local market, and a very good think to do, helps economy long term. - again, xenophobic WHAT? I sit in 1 row here with Swiss,…

That was sarcasm, sorry you couldn't detect it. Some of us love to travel and experience other cultures.

I'm well aware of traditional "Indian resources", one's that are trained over a 3 month period and passed off as "Expert in his field", and coached to give B.S. responses while they scour for another underling with better skills suited for the project.

But there are others who truly understand the product needs, and aren't afraid to engage in a discussion to figure out the best outcome for the product rather than to satisfy the clients.

Re: Europe Remotely – EU-friendly remote dev jobs

#102

Post by Inthenameofmine »

theunixbeard wrote: post #95
Inthenameofmine wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While I definitely don't agree with this sentiment > I'd love for the EU and the US to become more Anti-immigrant (thankfully it's rising) I definitely agree with everything else you just said. I'm a Swiss citizen, Swiss born and raised, US educated, but my parents are not from Switzerland, and my name is not Swiss. I look as European as anybody else. I couldn't even get a data entry job in Switzerland dammit. The US…

What is your home country? As a digital nomad I am always on the lookout for great quality-of-living : cost-of-living ratios!

Any South Eastern Europe coast city does it really. I personally like nature and silence every now and then so I stay at Albanian Riviera Villages May-July and Mid-September-October.

If you know the young scene and make friends quickly, as a digital nomad Prishtina, Split, Belgrade are also awesome. Try Istanbul if you really like a lively city.

Re: Europe Remotely – EU-friendly remote dev jobs

#103

Post by saiya-jin »

Inthenameofmine wrote: post #86
ameen wrote: post #60

As an Indian, I doubt I'll qualify for work in these companies. The problem for non-EU, non-US devs wishing to work remotely [1] is that most companies can't legally employ you or aren't willing to jump through bureaucratic hoops just to employ you. I'd subscribed to a remote-only jobs board and the issue was that either I didn't qualify for work due to my residency, or the company never really responded. I would say…

While I definitely don't agree with this sentiment > I'd love for the EU and the US to become more Anti-immigrant (thankfully it's rising) I definitely agree with everything else you just said. I'm a Swiss citizen, Swiss born and raised, US educated, but my parents are not from Switzerland, and my name is not Swiss. I look as European as anybody else. I couldn't even get a data entry job in Switzerland dammit. The US…

correct me if I am wrong, but if I understood correctly:

- your parents are non-swiss and non-european, but came here, got you citizenship and adter growing up here you moved to US for university and stayed away - is that right?

You shouldn't be surprised what they asked from you - relocation. There are specific laws who companies can employ here, and noone is going to break the law just because you would like to set things up your way. If they allowed that, in couple of years Suisse in many ways would be gone as we know it. As you well know, it's a tiny job market with high salaries. they need to keep people spending their earned cash here. Your citizenship doesn't make any difference, it's not xenophobia or anything, just simple laws that people and companies here follow.

- taxes you mention are possible here too, it's super safe here even compared to rest of Europe (US is simply uncomparable) etc. If you are happy where you are, great for you! All you describe is from my view valid about Switzerland too.

Re: Europe Remotely – EU-friendly remote dev jobs

#104

Post by ameen »

it_learnses wrote: post #90
ameen wrote: post #60

As an Indian, I doubt I'll qualify for work in these companies. The problem for non-EU, non-US devs wishing to work remotely [1] is that most companies can't legally employ you or aren't willing to jump through bureaucratic hoops just to employ you. I'd subscribed to a remote-only jobs board and the issue was that either I didn't qualify for work due to my residency, or the company never really responded. I would say…

I am a developer living in Canada (emigrated from India a long time ago) and I have heard of and seen many outsourcing horror stories. So I wouldn't say most Indians adhere to "industry standards" in code-quality, etc. They are just in it to make money and many times do a very shitty job. Also, communicating with them isn't very easy. Most Indians think they speak fluent English, but I would say in my experience it's…

I fully agree with what you've said, and unfortunately it's a stereotype permeated by the IT Sweatshops of TCS, Infosys et al.

I was brought up in an Urban city, English is the only language I've learnt right from childhood and continue to do so, the language that I'm most fluent in. (yes I can't read or write my native tongue). I do agree that lying on resumes is widespread that some of us (who believe we're upto snuff in our fields) don't bother to bring resumes to job interviews, usually we're contacted by recruiters/hiring teams based on our past projects.

Re: Europe Remotely – EU-friendly remote dev jobs

#105

Post by ameen »

Inthenameofmine wrote: post #102
theunixbeard wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is your home country? As a digital nomad I am always on the lookout for great quality-of-living : cost-of-living ratios!

Any South Eastern Europe coast city does it really. I personally like nature and silence every now and then so I stay at Albanian Riviera Villages May-July and Mid-September-October. If you know the young scene and make friends quickly, as a digital nomad Prishtina, Split, Belgrade are also awesome. Try Istanbul if you really like a lively city.

Sounds wonderful to be honest. Where is your company incorporated in? Would love to contact you but there's no info on your HN profile.

Re: Europe Remotely – EU-friendly remote dev jobs

#106

Post by lllllll »

k__ wrote: post #70
DominikR wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I heard this has to do with the fact that once social services prove that you are not actually self employed the employer would have to pay back a significant amount to social services AND a fine on top of that. I understand that these laws should prevent abuse of employees by big corporations, but it's hilarious that they go after self employed consultants that make several 100k Euros per year and already pay the ma…

In Germany you need to make about 60000€ a year to get private health insurance (better service, lower price) OR you have to be self-employed, where it doesn't matter how much you make. (500€ private, 750€ public) Yes, this doesn't matter for an engineer who makes about 100000€ a year. :) But! If you're an employee, you have to pay into a government-controlled retirement fund, if you're self-employed you don't. If yo…

A software engineer can make 100k€ in Germany? Where's that!?

Re: Europe Remotely – EU-friendly remote dev jobs

#107

Post by ameen »

dvdcxn wrote: post #97
saiya-jin wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

a rather selfish approach to keep things polite. - you want us to be more xenophobic, but in the same time steal local jobs for yourself, with our pay, but your local expenses. just WOW - there are specific laws to prevent what you want to do, at least in some cases. it's called protection of local market, and a very good think to do, helps economy long term. - again, xenophobic WHAT? I sit in 1 row here with Swiss,…

>err... Scotch Wouldn't recommend calling us Scots "Scotch". We're not whisky ;)

Isn't British inoffensive to Scots? Odd he decided to bundle an entire nation with whiskey :P

Re: Europe Remotely – EU-friendly remote dev jobs

#108

Post by saiya-jin »

dvdcxn wrote: post #97
saiya-jin wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

a rather selfish approach to keep things polite. - you want us to be more xenophobic, but in the same time steal local jobs for yourself, with our pay, but your local expenses. just WOW - there are specific laws to prevent what you want to do, at least in some cases. it's called protection of local market, and a very good think to do, helps economy long term. - again, xenophobic WHAT? I sit in 1 row here with Swiss,…

>err... Scotch Wouldn't recommend calling us Scots "Scotch". We're not whisky ;)

my bad (and your mistake for making such a damn good drink :))

Re: Europe Remotely – EU-friendly remote dev jobs

#109

Post by kuschku »

chrisseaton wrote: post #73
kuschku wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At least in Germany, there is no legal opt-out. Only in emergencies, and even then only 10h a day.

> Only in emergencies, and even then only 10h a day. Are you saying that if there's some major medical incident, with medical facilities overwhelmed, hundreds of people needing help, German doctors would just say 'sorry, ten hours, I'm off home to watch TV'. I'm sure that's not true.

In rare emergencies, the limit is gone, but then the employee needs at least 2 days of free time after that shift.

Re: Europe Remotely – EU-friendly remote dev jobs

#110

Post by frandroid »

it_learnses wrote: post #90
ameen wrote: post #60

As an Indian, I doubt I'll qualify for work in these companies. The problem for non-EU, non-US devs wishing to work remotely [1] is that most companies can't legally employ you or aren't willing to jump through bureaucratic hoops just to employ you. I'd subscribed to a remote-only jobs board and the issue was that either I didn't qualify for work due to my residency, or the company never really responded. I would say…

I am a developer living in Canada (emigrated from India a long time ago) and I have heard of and seen many outsourcing horror stories. So I wouldn't say most Indians adhere to "industry standards" in code-quality, etc. They are just in it to make money and many times do a very shitty job. Also, communicating with them isn't very easy. Most Indians think they speak fluent English, but I would say in my experience it's…

The problem is with "outsourcing" in the first place; the incentives are totally different. I'd like to hear from Western companies who've hired remote workers in India... I used to work in for a non-profit that is based in the U.S. but has its dev team in Poland. I think it is an open-ended outsourcing contract that's still going on years after it was started, i.e. they are pretty much employees. When we've had problems with code quality we'd call them out on it and they'd clean up their act. That's something you can't get with touch and go outsourcing.
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