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Re: Homeschooled with MIT courses at 5, accepted to MIT at 15

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“I will never forget the feeling of walking into the lobby of Building 7, looking up, and then touching the pillars to see if they were real. I couldn’t believe I was at MIT. My life and my ambitions moved to another level at that moment.” I think this impressive achievement is more a testament to the role that aspirations acquired during childhood play in determining a person's success than it is a reflection of thi…

Well put, I frequently read stories like this and wonder if I could have done the same if I wasn't constantly being distracted by family arguments/being poor/being envious of other's situations or wasting so much time on video games. I feel regret almost every single day and constantly feel 1 or 2 years behind the curve. Even now I don't have a singular vision like this kid probably because I get so distracted by rea…

>I feel regret almost every single day and constantly feel 1 or 2 years behind the curve.

I'm not sure how old you are, but I'm guessing you're pretty young. The older you get the less a year or two matters matters.

By the time you're 30, no one (not even yourself) will notice that you are 2 years behind your peers (based on whatever metric you're using). In fact, the older you get, the harder it is to measure what being 2 years behind even means.

And, just think about the huge variations in life span. Say, for example, George finished college 2 years later than Bob. However, George lived to 90 and was able to do productive work right up to the end, and Bob died at 78. George had an entire extra decade, even though he had a slightly later start.

Re: Homeschooled with MIT courses at 5, accepted to MIT at 15

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I've hung out with Ahaan at school several times -- some people in the comments here are speculating that going to university this young might make it hard to adjust (socially), but honestly I assumed he was like ~20 (i.e. just like any other college-age dude). I had no clue he had such a neat backstory of how he got to MIT!

Yeah, there was a guy at my alma mater (Olin College of Engineering) who entered at 14 or 15. He was perfectly normal and well-adjusted. I mean, it was a weird cloistered tech school environment, so "normal" and "well-adjusted" are relative here, but I also didn't realize he was so young until he mentioned it. I mean, sure, you get the occasional Ted Kaczynski, but the vast majority of kids I've heard of entering col…

> you get the occasional Ted Kaczynski

Occasional? Ted was one of a kind. And apparently, you don't "get" someone like him. Allegedly, rather, you "make" that kind of person through government sponsored psychological torture experiments. http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2000/06/harvard-...

Re: Homeschooled with MIT courses at 5, accepted to MIT at 15

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I find his drive and his parent's support commendable. Being someone who has not been homeschooled and does not know anyone who has, I am extremely curious about it.

-How does one go about replicating this kind of success? Or even moderate success. In typical schools, you have some measure of whether your child is "succeeding". How does one go about doing the same for home-schooled children.

-How do you go about providing the structure that schools provides towards increasingly complex material which will keep the child engaged and learning at the same time.

Not having children myself but watching my brother's children, I can see that the structure provided for children is extremely important, even for simple things like when to have food, go to bed, practice music etc.

Are there any good resources for raising home schooled children and providing structure?

Re: Homeschooled with MIT courses at 5, accepted to MIT at 15

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I still mix my small B and small D, and my left and right. Five year old me would've loved a higher level of education though. School was incredibly boring.

We had a new teacher for maths in eighth grade. I remember how enthusiastic he was about set theory. He was so excited to talk about it and reminisced that the first time he saw set theory was in the second year of college. Granted our stuff was just introductory stuff but I doubt I'd care the slightest between AND and OR and associate them with intersection and union if it wasn't for the teachers. Now my professor i…

Depending on your institution, it's quite possible that your professor is there for research instead of teaching. It's unfortunate that today an academic who wishes to have job security must do one in order to do the other. Also consider the possibility that she is simply uncomfortable responding extemporaneously in front of an audience (I remember one of my lecturers who could barely do basic arithmetic while at the whiteboard, presumably out of anxiety).

Re: Homeschooled with MIT courses at 5, accepted to MIT at 15

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“I will never forget the feeling of walking into the lobby of Building 7, looking up, and then touching the pillars to see if they were real. I couldn’t believe I was at MIT. My life and my ambitions moved to another level at that moment.” I think this impressive achievement is more a testament to the role that aspirations acquired during childhood play in determining a person's success than it is a reflection of thi…

> These stories attract the attention of some of us because we wish we had been raised similarly. We wish we had been but we didn't live in the right time or place for an upbringing like this. I remember stealing my dad's college textbooks on mechanics and applied mathematics and sneaking them off to school; taking out Byte and Compute issues from the library when they were available... just starving for more all the…

Hell Im 23, and even with easy access to information its difficult if you have to work full-time to pay the bills. Ive been working full-time since I was 15, and no matter how many courses I completed or books I read, without financially stable parents there is no way a normal person can do this. Thats why most of us attend public school.

I have full confidence most people are capable, but they would need some exceptionally staunch parents and finacial stability. Plus a lot of drive to accomplish these goals (it is not for everyone).

Re: Homeschooled with MIT courses at 5, accepted to MIT at 15

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It would be interested to check in with him at 35 to see where he ended up compared to other 'normal' 35 year old MIT grads. Basically does pushing your kid like that from such and early age lead to any significant long term advantages.

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Re: Homeschooled with MIT courses at 5, accepted to MIT at 15

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“I will never forget the feeling of walking into the lobby of Building 7, looking up, and then touching the pillars to see if they were real. I couldn’t believe I was at MIT. My life and my ambitions moved to another level at that moment.” I think this impressive achievement is more a testament to the role that aspirations acquired during childhood play in determining a person's success than it is a reflection of thi…

We are who we are, in part, because of the journey we took.

Today I can say that I would love to have had such an upbringing. At the same time, I can also say that my 5 year old self would have hated it.

Re: Homeschooled with MIT courses at 5, accepted to MIT at 15

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“I will never forget the feeling of walking into the lobby of Building 7, looking up, and then touching the pillars to see if they were real. I couldn’t believe I was at MIT. My life and my ambitions moved to another level at that moment.” I think this impressive achievement is more a testament to the role that aspirations acquired during childhood play in determining a person's success than it is a reflection of thi…

    “(...) Had we not devoted our attention as children to, say, petty family turmoil or a hedonistic preoccupation with computer games (...)”
I disagree. Altough I would have loved learn more when i had all that free time and no Internet, I don't regret for an second the time spent playing some videogames (Monkey Island, King/Space Quest, Civilization, etc), reading for pleasure (Dumas, Asimov, Dracula, Rowling... Spiderman!) or even watching movies or some TV.

I'm a more complete (and interesting!) person because of all that.

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