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State of emergency declared across France after Paris shootings and explosions

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Re: State of emergency declared across France after Paris shootings and explosions

#101

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It is already changing. Give it a few weeks. Sweden and Hungary have already put border controls back in place, France will likely do as well as a result of this attack at least for the foreseeable future. After that - and coupled with the immense increase of cross-border crime in the last decade - it will be a fairly easy step to rescind Schengen, if not in name then at least in spirit or on a 'temporary' basis. It'…

Border controls are one thing. Freedom of movements is another. Being forced to flash id card at the border is not the same as the border officer being able to refuse entry to a legal EU citizen.

True, but that means long lines waiting at the borders between countries again (hours for citizens, days for trucks). The damage would be enormous.

Re: State of emergency declared across France after Paris shootings and explosions

#102

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In my years and travels, I've settled on the fact that the only solution to those "assholes" that destroy community fabric is overwhelming force. You cannot reason with someone who has nothing to lose.

Which suggests an alternative (partial) solution: make sure that people in general have lots to lose especially those on the fringes of society.

There's a reason whether someone has life insurance is used as a signal when determining if they're a terrorist.

Re: State of emergency declared across France after Paris shootings and explosions

#104
post #9

A disaster. Obviously don't know yet who is responsible, but I don't understand why France is being targeted in this way. They are hardly terrorist enemy number one.

It's a lot easier for the terrorists to get into France, compared to, say, the US.

Re: State of emergency declared across France after Paris shootings and explosions

#105
post #34

What can we in tech do to help with this kind of situation?

There are initiatives like location-aware alerts on your smartphone, dedicated channels for emergency broadcasts...

Reminds me of this thing they have in Amsterdam: http://www.iamexpat.nl/read-and-discuss/expat-page/news/neth...

Re: State of emergency declared across France after Paris shootings and explosions

#106
post #98

I bet attacks like these will increase in the years ahead, since France will become 10.9% Muslim by 2050. ( http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/11518702/Mapped-Wh... )

Please, wars of religions are from the 16th century [1]. In 2015, it's probably more linked with the foreign affairs and military operations. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Wars_of_Religion

If there were no Muslims, there would be almost no terror attacks. Conversely, if there were more Muslims, there would be more terror attacks.

Re: State of emergency declared across France after Paris shootings and explosions

#107

Reuters just reported: "French President Hollande decides state of emergency for all of France, borders closed." Source: http://live.reuters.com/Event/Paris_attacks_2?utm_source=twi...

How, physically? Do borders really... exist in the Schengen Zone? Like, how do they shut this down? https://www.google.com/maps/place/France/@49.5467828,5.43629...

Just roadblocks. Noting fancy for temporary and emergency.

Re: State of emergency declared across France after Paris shootings and explosions

#108
post #34

What can we in tech do to help with this kind of situation?

The tech useful for preventing these situations is exactly the kind that's frowned upon in civil liberties circles.

So why didn't the NSA report this suspicious activity to the French authorities?
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