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Why people keep trying to erase the Hollywood sign from Google Maps (2014)

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Re: Why people keep trying to erase the Hollywood sign from Google Maps (2014)

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post #87

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It's a sticker that gets put on your window. They're very hard to remove. http://www.myparkingpermit.com/Parking-Violation-Stickers/No...

Those stickers should be illegal. It's pettiness at its worst. Edit: illegal to use on people's cars/property that is.

I'd argue it's already illegal, to me it's vandalism for someone to place a sticker that needs to be scratched off potentially damaging the window.

But who will you complain to? Sausalito Police? Marin County Sheriff?

Re: Why people keep trying to erase the Hollywood sign from Google Maps (2014)

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I have to wonder why more residents aren't trying to milk money out of the tourists. Isn't that what is supposed to happen around every tourist attraction?

If I lived there, I might just pave a few extra parking spaces into my property and charge $5 for first 30 minutes and $5 each additional 60 minutes thereafter. Buy lemonade, hiking maps, souvenir magnets, and postcards from the kiosk. 10%-off coupons for checking in on social media. Hey! Hey! Hey mister; hey lady! You wanna buy Hollywood Sign t-shirt? Hollywood Sign keychain fob? How about shopped photo with your name in place of the real sign? Don't just take selfies! Everybody takes selfies! Buy something no one else has; buy this volume-printed diorama of the sign and surrounding park, signed by the artist! Limited edition!

Whenever I have been a tourist, the single best way to make me want to leave and never return is to subject me to a continuous barrage of sales pitches for useless attraction-related crap. Example: every square centimeter of Disney World. That's like the ultimate goal of merchandising, when it all sort of collapses into this state where everything becomes an advertisement for itself, and everything you buy subtly encourages you to buy more, or maybe just put all your cash in a paper envelope and deposit it into a slot under the Walt and Mickey statue.

That's how you ruin an attraction. You don't just make it secret and exclusive; that only makes people want it more. Instead, you relentlessly try to squeeze every last drop of money out of it. If you really want the people to stop coming, your Holy Grail is the online review that says, "Not worth the $10 parking space in some guy's front yard. Locals aggressively sell touristy crap, and the sign itself seems kind of cheap and pathetic from up close."

Of course, the downside is that unless you have some sort of "identify friend or foe" system in place, you get a dozen sales pitches every time you walk from your own driveway to your own house.

Re: Why people keep trying to erase the Hollywood sign from Google Maps (2014)

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post #72

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There are a lot of other crimes that can be committed before law enforcement would arrive. Would you suggest those are non-issues as well? It's hard for me to believe that you're not being a troll on purpose, and that you honestly are the sort of selfish person that you would deny someone access to or from their own home. Oh, wait, I think I get it. You don't own a house? That must be it. You're not a selfish jerk, y…

I actually rent a house with intent to buy soon. If someone did block my driveway, and I needed to get somewhere I would politely ask them to move because that's how human interaction should work. I'm not trolling, I'm making a general plea for more cool headed reasonable human interaction. If there were an emergency and my driveway was blocked I would probably drive through the grass as it is just grass and I have m…

> I'm not trolling, I'm making a general plea for more cool headed reasonable human interaction.

That's great. Would you park and block somebody's driveway?

Re: Why people keep trying to erase the Hollywood sign from Google Maps (2014)

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I have to wonder why more residents aren't trying to milk money out of the tourists. Isn't that what is supposed to happen around every tourist attraction? If I lived there, I might just pave a few extra parking spaces into my property and charge $5 for first 30 minutes and $5 each additional 60 minutes thereafter. Buy lemonade, hiking maps, souvenir magnets, and postcards from the kiosk. 10%-off coupons for checking…

This is a brilliant post! I love the idea of scaring away tourists by making it more touristy.

Re: Why people keep trying to erase the Hollywood sign from Google Maps (2014)

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does anybody know what's the current situation of this? I'm going to LA in a few weeks and I would like to know if I can get to see the sign.

I drove to the address 3204 Canyon Lake Drive, Los Angeles, CA 90068 mentioned in the article about 2 months ago. That's a really good spot I can recommend.

Re: Why people keep trying to erase the Hollywood sign from Google Maps (2014)

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Everybody hates tourists and it's hilarious. You live in a place that exists because of and is sustained by tourism and yet you hate all the people who come there and spend money. Here's an idea: move to a place that tourists don't like.

I'm pretty sure the Hollywood Hills aren't leaning real hard on the tourism industry.

I'd expect that a not-insubstantial portion of the residents of the Hollywood Hills have made their living/fortune directly or indirectly from the movie industry.

That's neither here nor there. People want to see an attraction. It's on public parkland. The residents, whatever their motivation, do not have a right to prevent that. They could petition the city for better access (hell no, they won't do that), or policy change. Instead, they use connections and money to do things like:

- illegally threaten tourists with the use of fake signs threatening civil or criminal sanctions - personally harass visitors - hire security guards who have been told to threaten people with trespass and arrest, illegally

Just like David Geffen's famous 'fake driveway'. Amazing how everyone in Malibu knows that it's not a real driveway. That he had no right to paint the curb red or yellow indicating fire lanes, etc. The police know it. The towing companies know it. Yet, every week, they book, ticket, and tow someone who also knows it (there have been cases where people have parked there with a print-out of the whole saga pinned to their window, to prevent the usual story, which is "well, we know it's not real, but you didn't and you parked there, so you were ignoring the law").

My sympathies are ... lacking.

Re: Why people keep trying to erase the Hollywood sign from Google Maps (2014)

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post #3

I may be missing something, but why don't they build a car park and widen the road? Surely it's a lot easier than trying to stop people going to one of the most recognisable landmarks in the world. It's definitely worrying that major tech companies are willing to alter their maps at the request of a few wealthy individuals.

Exactly, they could turn this into a beautiful destination with parking etc. Charge a small fee to pay for maintenance, close after 6pm. Everybody is happy.

They could. But that's not the point for the residents. They don't want that, either. They want secluded peace. Next to a world famous tourist attraction. They don't want construction, they don't want traffic. They'd gate Hollywood Blvd if they could to stop people even getting up the first of the streets towards the sign.

Re: Why people keep trying to erase the Hollywood sign from Google Maps (2014)

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post #46

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Small nitpick - why can't you erect tire-gouging spikes in your yard? It's your yard, is it not?

IANAL, nor am I directly citing anything. However, I believe that you cannot willfully setup something with intent to cause damage or harm to people or property that isn't your own. I believe it's akin to drenching your sandwich with Dave's Insanity Sauce to catch the co-worker who has been stealing your lunch. If your enjoy eating your hot sauce with a side of sandwich, that's fine. It's the intent of how you're usi…

IANAL either, but I think the prohibition is on items that threatan life and saftely rather than trespassers property.

From Wikipedia:

> Mantraps that use deadly force are illegal in the United States, and there have been notable tort law cases where the trespasser has successfully sued the property owner for damages caused by the mantrap. There is also the possibility that such traps could endanger emergency service personnel such as firefighters who must forcefully enter such buildings during emergencies. As noted in the important US court case of Katko v. Briney, "the law has always placed a higher value upon human safety than upon mere rights of property."

Thinking in those terms, a few spike strips on your lawn should be fine.

Re: Why people keep trying to erase the Hollywood sign from Google Maps (2014)

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post #50

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Except people who want to visit at night. You know that'll happen.

Then allow them to go at night and put some street lights up the trail. Also not impossible.

The problem is not providing better access. That's what the populace might want. The residents, who are already happily interfering and obstructing, illegally at times, don't want that, and certainly don't want the idea of 'night access'.

Re: Why people keep trying to erase the Hollywood sign from Google Maps (2014)

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post #87

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>>> Friend of mine got one of those hard to remove stickers put on their car for taking her mother up there. What did they put on her car?

It's a sticker that gets put on your window. They're very hard to remove. http://www.myparkingpermit.com/Parking-Violation-Stickers/No...

>> Adhere the label to the side window or windshield. Once stuck onto a window, the warning requires scrapping or a razor blade to remove.

Vandalism, basically.

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