Looks nice. Is this really an SUV, though? It looks like a sedan.
3 rows of seats. 5000lb towing capacity. taller styling. yup.
Tesla Model X Launch event, livestream
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#102Earlier quoted context omitted.
And where is the claim, I can't seem to find it in your link. Edit: My comment is still valid, there was simply no such claim made.
This is the claim that the feds disagreed with: "NHTSA does not publish a star rating above 5, however safety levels better than 5 stars are captured in the overall Vehicle Safety Score (VSS) provided to manufacturers, where the Model S achieved a new combined record of 5.4 stars." Elsewhere in this thread, you point to a different Tesla blog post with the exact same language!
And the only problem is because they technically used 5.4 and stars together. If they called 5.4 with some other magical unit they invented, or simply called it theoretical/hypothetical rating, there would be no problem.
They also make it pretty clear: NHTSA does not publish a star rating above 5
You would have to be either a lawyer or pretty dense to see that as deceptive.
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#103I'm on the market for a car in Bay area and was considering Tesla until met with somewhat uninspiring people at Tesla dealership delivering conversation in kind of "Yes. No. Thank you" manner leaving me with impression that they were busy with something more interesting than my presence and hoping i won't keep asking these stupid questions about tesla cars. Were i suppose to make an appointment to avoid being an intr…
Funny enough, I ordered my Tesla specifically because I didn't have to go into a showroom or order through a person. To each their own I guess.
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#104I admire Tesla as a company, but I can't help but wonder why they still have Elon Musk do the entire presentation himself. Sure, he's their superstar, but he comes off as a very underprepared public speaker. I wish they had him do an introduction, and then have a spokesperson do the bulk of the talking. Instead, he's showing off these new and amazing products with nearly no charisma and enthusiasm.
Couldn't possibly disagree more. He comes off as genuine instead of as a script-reading marketing person. He really cares about the product and the end goal and every inch of this originates from him. This is his version of enthusiasm. Steve Jobs wasn't any more "enthusiastic"....he was soft-spoken and straightforward, too, he just didn't stutter/hesitate the way Elon naturally does, so he came across as much smoothe…
You make very good points, and I agree that having Elon as the spokesperson makes the event feel more personal and genuine. I still feel like his presentation manner is disappointing, though. I get that it's a petty thing to complain about, but he seems nervous when he's talking publicly and I find that distracting. I don't want to make it seem like I'm dissing Tesla or Elon Musk directly. I liked the launch event otherwise.
Re: Tesla Model X Launch event, livestream
#105I admire Tesla as a company, but I can't help but wonder why they still have Elon Musk do the entire presentation himself. Sure, he's their superstar, but he comes off as a very underprepared public speaker. I wish they had him do an introduction, and then have a spokesperson do the bulk of the talking. Instead, he's showing off these new and amazing products with nearly no charisma and enthusiasm.
People get Teslas because they want something different. If you put the normal carnival barker salesman up there prospective customers will come away thinking "Hey, that kind of sounds like every other pitch at the car show I went to."
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#106Earlier quoted context omitted.
Only recognised the last one. It's Steve Jurvetson, from DFJ. He got the one of the first Model S's. Also invested in Tesla.
"Also invested in Tesla" is a bit short... He's on the board at both Tesla and SpaceX (DFJ gave both tens of millions of dollars).. According to his Twitter / Flickr feed, he's probably the world's biggest Musk fan, and probably not just because his investments with Elon made him hundreds of millions in personal wealth.
Well aware of the history, did not find it immediately relevant.
Also, Steve doesn't sell shares of most/any of the companies he invests in, he donates them.
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#107Earlier quoted context omitted.
Couldn't possibly disagree more. He comes off as genuine instead of as a script-reading marketing person. He really cares about the product and the end goal and every inch of this originates from him. This is his version of enthusiasm. Steve Jobs wasn't any more "enthusiastic"....he was soft-spoken and straightforward, too, he just didn't stutter/hesitate the way Elon naturally does, so he came across as much smoothe…
You make very good points, and I agree that having Elon as the spokesperson makes the event feel more personal and genuine. I still feel like his presentation manner is disappointing, though. I get that it's a petty thing to complain about, but he seems nervous when he's talking publicly and I find that distracting. I don't want to make it seem like I'm dissing Tesla or Elon Musk directly. I liked the launch event ot…
I understand. I guess I just find that that hesitancy adds a lot for me, makes it feel less corporate and more like just another guy showing off this cool thing he made and which he really hopes you like. I wonder how long it's been since a car company announced a car this way. I don't remember EVER seeing a car reveal in the first place, actually. Just one day you start seeing commercials for the ALL NEW 2017 NISSAN ALTIMA etc etc
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#108The Model 3 will be my first car, unless my circumstances necessitate that I have one sooner. The stuff that Tesla is doing is just so bonkers cool. Not only that though, I'm sure it's going to be safe, reliable and fast.
I hope it's release on time, but Musk doesn't have the best track record when it comes to timing.
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#109The car looks absolutely beautiful. Sadly, as much as I want to go electric, I have no use for it, at $140K for an SUV I expect a lot more than this.
I think the falcon doors solve a non-existing problem while parking. I can't remember the last time this was an issue, with or without kids, with or without cargo or bags on the back seat of either an SUV or a minivan.
The same is true of the third row seat. We've had both SUV's and minivans with third rows. Never an issue, even for adults.
The falcon wings are very cool from a technological perspective but a complete non-starter for me. Bikes, surfboards and other stuff need to go on a roof rack. I can't see any way to transport our Maas rowing shells on this thing. They are 24 feet long and have to go on the roof. I've even brought home 2x4's and sheets of plywood from Home Depot on top of SUV's and minivans.
Can you open the falcon wing doors by hand if you have no power? I'd be surprised if this was not possible.
Towing is another aspect of this car that is likely to disappoint outside of a stage. If anyone expects to be able to do 250 miles while towing a 5,000 lbs trailer on anything other than an absolutely flat road with a 60 mile per hour tail winds they are going to be disappointed. As drag increases so will current draw and electrical losses, which will be constant and very significant. Weight is more of a factor on non-flat roads, which is nearly 100% of them anywhere I've been. I'd be surprised if the actual range while towing is much more than half the rated non-towing range.
What's good?
Crash performance is fantastic!
HEPA filter: Unreal. Nice.
It looks amazing.
It's electric!
I sincerely think Tesla should have come up with a new acronym for Model X: LUV - Luxury Utility Vehicle. That, no doubt, it is.
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#110He's claiming 6% possibility of injury during high speed collision. Imagine any other CEO saying something similar for their product - Elon is the man! Any other suit would say "Five star" over and over.
I had a side impact in my Model S recently. When he showed the slide with the side-impact versus other cars it made me realize that I was lucky to be driving my Model S, since my car looked like the Tesla in the picture, and it likely could have looked like the other picture.