The Weakness of the .NET OSS Ecosystem • Hacker News Board

sremani wrote: post #5

The level intellectual laziness is immense. Most of the developers, me included look at Microsoft for guidance than embracing hard problems and solving it for ourselves. This does not mean .net is filled with incompetent programmers but it is full of "unless you pay" programmers.

You mean the "At least I don't have to use Java" developers?

Re: The Weakness of the .NET OSS Ecosystem

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Post by UK-AL » Thu, Jul 23, 2015, 3:53 PM UTC

Because they'll stick to one solution. For distributed computing most people use something like NServiceBus, which is by far the most popular solution.

Re: The Weakness of the .NET OSS Ecosystem

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Post by lectrick » Thu, Jul 23, 2015, 3:53 PM UTC

cbsmith wrote: post #4

Alternate title: "It's hard to build a church on top of a native american burial ground."

I liked this analogy. Why is it getting downvoted? It's totally true. Too much cognitive dissonance between open-source on a for-profit foundation.

Re: The Weakness of the .NET OSS Ecosystem

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Post by vdnkh » Thu, Jul 23, 2015, 3:53 PM UTC

Yes, the author is correct. There is a distinct lack of OSS in .NET. I've been trying to find a project to contribute to among the graveyard on Github. However, I think the author falls flat explaining the why. I have a few thory on this. For so long C# has been a walled garden of closed source software. This closed source software, for the most part, works damn well. Why reinvent a square wheel when there is a shop of perfectly good OEM ones? At work, I'm focused on Getting Stuff Done and the .NET library is great for that.

Re: The Weakness of the .NET OSS Ecosystem

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Post by lectrick » Thu, Jul 23, 2015, 3:58 PM UTC

I'm glad that Microsoft is absorbing enough young guys who went through college realizing open-source is cool to actually influence their future direction, but based on the entire self-interested history of Microsoft (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend_and_extinguish or http://www.pcworld.com/article/2901262/microsoft-tightens-wi... or http://techrights.org/2010/09/17/microsoft-management-mocks-...) and especially its deep insecurity around, AND open hostility towards, open source, they can truly go fuck themselves.

I know the latter is a downvotable attitude, and I apologize because it's very unlike me, but it is one of my few sore points, and this comes from years of web developer hell dealing with IE, years of working at places which only considered solutions that Microsoft invented, years of dealing with Microsoft BS left and right.

Before you downvote- If you honestly consider yourself a developer who cares about their craft and career, I want you to read these 2 books- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cathedral_and_the_Bazaar and http://www.paulgraham.com/hackpaint.html (yes, I just plugged a pg book on HN... It's part of why I'm here, actually!). And THEN come back and try to downvote me.

Re: The Weakness of the .NET OSS Ecosystem

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Post by crescentfresh » Thu, Jul 23, 2015, 3:59 PM UTC

bigdubs wrote: post #6

The OSS "weaknesses" of .net are a chicken and an egg problem; the more people who come from a community software background that use a framework, the more community software there will be for that framework. Having what reads as a very angry and negative blogpost about the state of .net oss isn't really helping. Contributing software is though, and that really should have been the focus of the post, not how weak and…

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Re: The Weakness of the .NET OSS Ecosystem

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Post by cies » Thu, Jul 23, 2015, 4:01 PM UTC

platz wrote: post #12

My perception is that F# is attracting the open source folks in the .Net community http://tomasp.net/blog/2015/why-fsharp-in-2015/

But we all know F# is a gateway drug to... :)