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Re: Elven.io – Send an email to get any Python programming job done

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Post by x5n1 »

kwjoshua wrote: post #10
x5n1 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not just that it's low, it's also a fact that little jobs have more uncovered overhead. It's a new domain that you have to wrap your head around, etc. No body knows right off the top of their head to get everything done. I don't see the pricing as viable.

Could be viable if you don't live in a first world country I think.

At 50 dollars your actual earnings will probably be 1/2 to 1/3 of that. So yes I guess you can make a living in the third world at 25/hr or 16/hr.

Re: Elven.io – Send an email to get any Python programming job done

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Post by vortico »

Services like these seem to only be able to handle small standalone scripts, rather than work in integrated codebases, which require time and dedication to the projects. How is there a market for this, when most developers capable of understanding what programs can do are also capable of writing prototype implementations of them?

Re: Elven.io – Send an email to get any Python programming job done

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Post by pkaye »

giaour wrote: post #4

$50/hour seems really low. It makes me think that the elves are inexperienced or that this is just a thin wrapper around Mechanical Turk or oDesk. EDIT: This was not meant to be a criticism of whoever built this, but a bit of marketing advice. As someone who might use a service like this, I would pause before using short-term contract programmers that cost $50 an hour. Consultancies bill out fresh grads at rates cons…

What do you think is a fair market rate? Are there sites that offer higher rates than this for the contractors for short term gigs? It kind of interests me there if there are opportunities for doing short half day scope projects.

Re: Elven.io – Send an email to get any Python programming job done

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Post by icebraining »

x5n1 wrote: post #11
kwjoshua wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could be viable if you don't live in a first world country I think.

At 50 dollars your actual earnings will probably be 1/2 to 1/3 of that. So yes I guess you can make a living in the third world at 25/hr or 16/hr.

Assuming the workers are employed full-time, $25/h is about $4000/month. That's a pretty good salary for an average programmer in Portugal (Europe!), even before taxes.

Re: Elven.io – Send an email to get any Python programming job done

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Post by icebraining »

vortico wrote: post #13

Services like these seem to only be able to handle small standalone scripts, rather than work in integrated codebases, which require time and dedication to the projects. How is there a market for this, when most developers capable of understanding what programs can do are also capable of writing prototype implementations of them?

The programmers might just want to save time to work on more important stuff. There are also technically-able people who can't program but might need a script to perform some mundane task (like their dog image example).

Re: Elven.io – Send an email to get any Python programming job done

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Post by hamiltont »

If anyone knows a service like this for getting custom Dockerfiles, please share. I run multiple containers on my home network and often have minor complaints about the Dockerfiles without the time to fix them up e.g. "it should have a bootstrap.sh that supports these additional 5 variables"

Re: Elven.io – Send an email to get any Python programming job done

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Post by giaour »

pkaye wrote: post #14
giaour wrote: post #4

$50/hour seems really low. It makes me think that the elves are inexperienced or that this is just a thin wrapper around Mechanical Turk or oDesk. EDIT: This was not meant to be a criticism of whoever built this, but a bit of marketing advice. As someone who might use a service like this, I would pause before using short-term contract programmers that cost $50 an hour. Consultancies bill out fresh grads at rates cons…

What do you think is a fair market rate? Are there sites that offer higher rates than this for the contractors for short term gigs? It kind of interests me there if there are opportunities for doing short half day scope projects.

I dunno, my first programming job was for a consultancy that billed me out at $125/hour to do small jobs. Somewhere in the $80-$150 range? Maybe more, since their examples highlight jobs that take as little as half an hour.

I think you're assuming that the people completing the tasks are receiving the full $50/hour, which would mean no managers, no salespeople, no accounts receivable staff, and no office.

Re: Elven.io – Send an email to get any Python programming job done

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Post by austenallred »

hamiltont wrote: post #17

If anyone knows a service like this for getting custom Dockerfiles, please share. I run multiple containers on my home network and often have minor complaints about the Dockerfiles without the time to fix them up e.g. "it should have a bootstrap.sh that supports these additional 5 variables"

As someone who just lost a week worth of productivity dealing with Docker, I cannot agree more

Re: Elven.io – Send an email to get any Python programming job done

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Post by escobar »

icebraining wrote: post #15
x5n1 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At 50 dollars your actual earnings will probably be 1/2 to 1/3 of that. So yes I guess you can make a living in the third world at 25/hr or 16/hr.

Assuming the workers are employed full-time, $25/h is about $4000/month. That's a pretty good salary for an average programmer in Portugal (Europe!), even before taxes.

Yeah, that was my first guess, that the creators aren't in the US, and $50/hr is a good rate for a lot of developers that live in areas with a lower cost of living, etc.
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