I can remember when the whole point of creating Firefox was as a response to a bloated Netscape that included an email client, newsreader, kitchen sink etc.
Now it seems they're trying to bundle everything back in again.
User feedback on Pocket submitted to Mozilla
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Re: User feedback on Pocket submitted to Mozilla
#12Yes sure, It's really negative feedback here but the majority of users commenting there have technical knowledge as you can see in the comments and most people are only commenting when they don't like things anyway, you never have any thanks if they like things (if you ever created something used by other people, you know what I'm talking about). So we can see that technical people (including me) don't like so much t…
very much agree. I honestly don't see what the hubub is all about. Re: privacy, Firefox maintains it's commitment and integrity. The pocket integration is very transparent (pocket has agreed to open-source it), and the tech-saavy people that seem to be the only people this offends can disable with about:config. Honestly, it seems that people seem to be upset about the idea that Firefox is raising money outside of don…
If Mozilla is going to start including proprietary closed platforms like pocket, what do they offer that Chrome is not? WebKit is much more targeted by web developers so I'm going to have a slightly better experience with Chrome. Without the moral high ground of openness and privacy why would anyone chose Firefox over the competition?
Re: User feedback on Pocket submitted to Mozilla
#13Mozilla is not a merry band of hackers anymore. They're a bona fida corporation with its own agenda. Their agenda depends on having as many users as possible so they're trying to make everything they can for that. The free web, choice and all that become second place now. PS : Look at their corporate HQ.
At least it means Mozilla has reviewed the Pocket code embedded in the browser and it doesn't send every single keystroke to GetPocket. It's good, because I don't usually install browser extensions for the very reason that I don't know what parts of my privacy I'm giving up.
Btw, just a question because I'm not sure. They've reviewed the Pocket code, right?
Re: User feedback on Pocket submitted to Mozilla
#14When did they build in Pocket? I didn't like when they added Hello but this seems even stranger. I guess they're getting money from Pocket for it in the same way they get money from Google for search but users can opt-out of Google search - from those complaints it doesn't sound possible for Pocket. (Please let me know if I'm wrong).
Mozilla does not get money from Pocket
source: http://www.pcworld.com/article/2930532/reading-service-pocke...
There's no monetary benefit to Mozilla from the integration: Pocket didn't pay for placement in the browser.
Re: User feedback on Pocket submitted to Mozilla
#15Yes sure, It's really negative feedback here but the majority of users commenting there have technical knowledge as you can see in the comments and most people are only commenting when they don't like things anyway, you never have any thanks if they like things (if you ever created something used by other people, you know what I'm talking about). So we can see that technical people (including me) don't like so much t…
very much agree. I honestly don't see what the hubub is all about. Re: privacy, Firefox maintains it's commitment and integrity. The pocket integration is very transparent (pocket has agreed to open-source it), and the tech-saavy people that seem to be the only people this offends can disable with about:config. Honestly, it seems that people seem to be upset about the idea that Firefox is raising money outside of don…
Allow me to quote the Pocket ToS[1]:
> We may work with trusted third parties that we refer to as internal service providers to facilitate or outsource one or more aspects of the products and services that we provide to you, and we may provide some of your personal information directly to these internal service providers.
I feel that speaks for itself.
Re: User feedback on Pocket submitted to Mozilla
#16When did they build in Pocket? I didn't like when they added Hello but this seems even stranger. I guess they're getting money from Pocket for it in the same way they get money from Google for search but users can opt-out of Google search - from those complaints it doesn't sound possible for Pocket. (Please let me know if I'm wrong).
You can delete the button, and you can go into about:config, turn off switches and set strings to "null". But the code is baked in, and your work to disable it will likely be reversed with each Firefox update. There's nothing nefarious about the Pocket code in Firefox from what I've seen, but the service it connects your browser to is opaque, closed source, and the ToS is hostile and aggressive towards openness.
In short, it should have remained an extension.
Re: User feedback on Pocket submitted to Mozilla
#17When did they build in Pocket? I didn't like when they added Hello but this seems even stranger. I guess they're getting money from Pocket for it in the same way they get money from Google for search but users can opt-out of Google search - from those complaints it doesn't sound possible for Pocket. (Please let me know if I'm wrong).
About a month or so ago. The rationale was that Firefox used to have or intended to have a similar read for later feature but they decided to scrap it in favour of direct integration with Pocket. Oddly enough, Mozilla employees claim there wasn't money involved in the integration. See this thread for more: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9667809
Re: User feedback on Pocket submitted to Mozilla
#18This is a bit off-topic, but some of the user feedback (esp. in German) is really childish.
Re: User feedback on Pocket submitted to Mozilla
#19When did they build in Pocket? I didn't like when they added Hello but this seems even stranger. I guess they're getting money from Pocket for it in the same way they get money from Google for search but users can opt-out of Google search - from those complaints it doesn't sound possible for Pocket. (Please let me know if I'm wrong).
I don't know why exactly they chose to include pocket into Firefox. I do know that it has been stated that Mozilla does -not- receive money from Pocket usage.
I'm very confused as to why they didn't just leave it as an opt-in plugin.
Re: User feedback on Pocket submitted to Mozilla
#20I don't understand the complaint here. Do people expect Mozilla to build everything themselves?
Reader View is a great feature that was clearly missing. Adding a third party sync to it is really no different from picking a default search engine to serve location bar entries.
Pocket is fine, best of the trio (Instapaper, Readability) IMHO. I actually switched to Pocket from Readability, which was getting buggier, a few weeks before it was integrated.
Getting all that while bringing revenue for Mozilla to support further development of Firefox is a win-win-win. Unlike Hello or "Share This Page" which I have never seen anyone use.